Why dontcha print?

"Jeremy" wrote in message
link.net...

"Gisle Hannemyr" wrote in message
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I still make prints - but much fewer. Digital makes being selective
possible.

I have found that OFOTO.COM's prints look much better than viewing the
image
on my computer monitor.

You're right about not having to print images that aren't keepers, though.
Online printing from digital images is much more convenient--especially if
you want multiple copies of a particular print. You can get exactly what
you want, rather than waiting for the lab to process the roll, and then
having to return with your custom print order.

I became much happier with my digicam's results after I got my first set
of
prints from OFOTO. Viewing those images on my monitor just didn't do them
justice.


My dad used to put his film in a frame next to some kind of light sensitive
paper that darkened over time without developer. Then he would put the frame
in the sun for about 10 or 15 minutes, and he could see what the pictures
were going to look like before he spent time in the wet darkroom with
them. - Of course, this was usually for large format negatives, such as 5 x
7, but it worked for 35mm film strips, too.

"Alan Browne" wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04...rendsprint.asp

Ahh... but I do... and at home... and I've never owned or used or wanted a
digitial camera in my life... and those prints from 4x5 sure do look nice...

Ken

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04...rendsprint.asp


Why bother? Prints are environmentally unsound, fill a physical space
better dedicated to Doritos, and are detrimental to eyesight accustomed to
18-hour-a-day screen squinting. And haven't we all bemoaned our constant
expenditure on Anne Geddes-illustrated photo albums at least once today?

Incidentally, I would like to present my case for filling a rather
obvious unfilled niche; digital Camera Obscura. By setting up websites
(including ones accessible from WAP mobile/cellular phones) broadcasting
live feeds from webcams positioned at the perfect photogenic angle on each
of the world's major landmarks, people can say they have seen said landmarks
in foreign cities without missing out on valuable drunken rioting
opportunities.

--
Martin Francis http://www.sixbysix.co.uk
"Go not to Usenet for counsel, for it will say both no, and yes, and
no, and yes...."

Bill Tuthill wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04...rendsprint.asp


Interesting!

But I think it misses the point that digicam owners just don't know that
they can download images, or make a CDR and take it to a Fuji Frontier
minilab for printing. Most digicam owners don't even know which stores
have a Frontier and which don't.

Inkjet printers now have card readers and such, but I think card readers
are part of the problem. There are too many varieties of memory cards,
cards are delicate, and direct USB download is much easier.


Cards are FAR from delicate, and downloading from a card is usually
faster, and a LOT easier than connecting a USB cable, making sure the
camera has enough charge, and then having to worry about someone
knocking it on the floor when tripping on the cord. Unless you have one
of the 'dock' type cameras, then using a card reader is MUCH easier.

Bill Tuthill wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04...rendsprint.asp


Interesting!

But I think it misses the point that digicam owners just don't know that
they can download images, or make a CDR and take it to a Fuji Frontier
minilab for printing. Most digicam owners don't even know which stores
have a Frontier and which don't.

Not sure I agree. The marketing of printing services available
from cameras is pretty strong. Every photo store around here,
large or small, has a kiosk for printing. Every camera comes
with suggestions on how and where to get printing done if not
with ones own printer.



Inkjet printers now have card readers and such, but I think card readers
are part of the problem. There are too many varieties of memory cards,
cards are delicate, and direct USB download is much easier.

Yeah, but some people can't deal with setting up USB (it's that
simple, but some people just can't connect the dots). For them,
slipping the card into the slot on the printer is perfect (my
printer has the slot and adapters for various formats are
available... I haven't used it... I can also use the same slot as
a "drive" for cards carrying other info (files, video, etc.).

Cheers,
Alan



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Dominic Richens wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04...rendsprint.asp


I knew it!

I always thought colour print film was "wasteful". As the cost of grocery
store ISO400 processing included (7.99 Canadian) dropped below EK400 we
stopped taking slides and started shooting print film. As we had kids, we
started with the "2nd set for 2$" just to send to family and friends.
Fortunately my wife is ruthless with tossing the sub-standard prints - but
what a waste!! Every roll got us 50 4x6 pictures, of which _maybe_ 20 were
worth it. The other 30 bits of chemical laden dead trees just went into the
landfill.

Now the only time stuff gets printed is to a) go up on the wall or b) for
some computer-impaired family member - and it's great that I can drop the
JPEG into a web site, type in their snail-mail address - and a week later
they get a surprise!


try slide film.

While few people get 100% 'keepers' off of a roll of film, OTOH,
occasionally a 'throwaway' might contain some information that is
later wanted ... once thrown away and the negative is misplaces
regret sets in.... (I also throw away a lot, slides too).

Cheers,
Alan


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Ken Nadvornick wrote:

"Alan Browne" wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04...rendsprint.asp


Ahh... but I do... and at home... and I've never owned or used or wanted a
digitial camera in my life... and those prints from 4x5 sure do look nice...


....I think it was obvious enough what kind of cameras were being
used...


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"Yeah, but some people can't deal with setting up USB"

Both my Nikon and Olympus only require to plug in the USB cable. is that too
hard?.... no drivers to load, no software to run. Just double click 'my
computer' and a new removable drive has appeared. Drag and drop pics to a
new folder on the computer and done. 50 pics down load in less than 2
minutes so battery charge shouldn't be much of and issue.

I don't have a new computer. Its over 3 years old using Windows ME and USB
1.0 ports. So its not a speedy compter and doesn't have the better plug 'n
play of XP.

I used to use a card reader (exttra $$ I wish I didn't spend). My Dad uses
the card slot on his printer. His download time is at least 5x longer than
mine. Why? I don't know.


"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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Bill Tuthill wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04...rendsprint.asp


Interesting!

But I think it misses the point that digicam owners just don't know that
they can download images, or make a CDR and take it to a Fuji Frontier
minilab for printing. Most digicam owners don't even know which stores
have a Frontier and which don't.

Not sure I agree. The marketing of printing services available
from cameras is pretty strong. Every photo store around here,
large or small, has a kiosk for printing. Every camera comes
with suggestions on how and where to get printing done if not
with ones own printer.



Inkjet printers now have card readers and such, but I think card readers
are part of the problem. There are too many varieties of memory cards,
cards are delicate, and direct USB download is much easier.

Yeah, but some people can't deal with setting up USB (it's that
simple, but some people just can't connect the dots). For them,
slipping the card into the slot on the printer is perfect (my
printer has the slot and adapters for various formats are
available... I haven't used it... I can also use the same slot as
a "drive" for cards carrying other info (files, video, etc.).

Cheers,
Alan



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"Alan Browne" wrote:

...I think it was obvious enough what kind of cameras were being
used...

Heh, heh... ya' think??

jay wrote:

"Yeah, but some people can't deal with setting up USB"

Both my Nikon and Olympus only require to plug in the USB cable. is that too
hard?.... no drivers to load, no software to run. Just double click 'my

I didn't say everyone. Just "some people".


Don't top post.



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