IrfanView: sometimes very slow loading

"J. Clarke"
Sun, 13 Sep
2015 20:20:11 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

So let's see, according to you Microsoft will be able to steal
information off of a doctor's computer in violation of HIPPA?
You mean that they just willingly abandoned the entire medical
market?

Nothing is according to me. I've published no papers or articles
myself on the subject. This is all from other sources. Respected,
IT, sources. I've made no claims that Microsoft can outright
steal anything, either. How do you steal something in the digital
world? Do you intend to delete the file when you're done copying
it, so the original owner no longer has it?

Sorry, but with that response you're not holding a discussion,
you're engaging in netloonery.

plonk

Interesting. You put words in my mouth, come up with some crazy idea
that MS is going to steal (wtf?) patient records. Yet, I'm the netloon?
Too funny.



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Bill W
Sun, 13 Sep 2015
19:10:37 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

Total privacy is gone forever - it's just reality. If you are
afraid of every bit of info that is sent off into the ether, turn
off your phone, and disconnect from the internet. It's fine to be
cautious, but at some level, caution can become futile, and a
waste of time.

That's an interesting viewpoint. A discussion for another time,
perhaps.

And finally regarding upgrading from XP, I use lots of software -
mostly music and photo, and almost none of it will run on XP. And
I think I'm a typical user.

I'm very interested in learning the names of the programs and versions
that do not support XP for music and photo work. I'm also interested in
both (primarily music) and I haven't run into such an issue, so far.

It would be very helpful to know which programs I should be looking for
in the event I decide to migrate one or more systems to a later version
of Windows for personal use.

Thanks!



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nospam
Sun, 13 Sep 2015
22:54:46 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

xp is old and developers no longer support it. nor does microsoft.

That's a partially true statement. XP is old, MS no longer supports it
for home users (but, it certainly still does if you're willing to pay
crazy fees) some developers no longer support it. Not all, though.
Unless there's a specific reason a program I write cannot run on XP as
well as later editions of Windows, I see no reason to remove my ability
to earn cash from those still running XP as well. Short of custom
executables and work arounds, I'm still in. Money is money. From an XP
user or a Windows vista+ user.

Unless I'm doing things differently between OS versions, support should
be the same regardless of OS in use, even if the GUI looks a little
different.




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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

If you are an app developer, your support comes from the proceeds of
app development. If you are smart, you will expend your time and
effort in developing apps that work on a present and growing market
and not one in decline. The market for XP apps is in sharp decline.

that's a different definition of support than what the software
industry uses and i'm not surprised you get it wrong.

I had to laugh. This is a typical nospamism.

There are two ways of interpreting a word: you pick one and Tony picks
the other. By definition you are right and Tony is wrong.

Actually, I knew both usages but was making a small joke using the
other meaning. My bad. It's done all the time in other newsgroups
forums where the participants aren't wound as tight as nospam.

bull**** you did.

Turning the statement around - app development supporting app
developers - should have been understandable to anyone. That usage is
quite common...we support causes and charities by providing donations
and use "support" to mean the source of our finances in many ways. You
have to be awfully focused on the narrow world of vendor support of
apps not to know the other uses.

that has nothing to do with the software or hardware industry.

the above scenarios could include users supporting developers by buying
their apps.

however, that's something totally different than what i said, which was
developers supporting certain versions of an operating system or
platform.

just admit you ****ed up and move on.

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

This is not a software or hardware industry newsgroup or technical
publication. It is a newsgroup allegedly for people interested in
photography. People interested in photography generally have wide
enough interests that they know all usages of "support".

stop trying to weasel out of it.

like it or not, this newsgroup has a lot of discussions about computers
and software.

the statement was developers don't support xp.

it was not about app revenue supporting developers.

I don't know how many people who read this newsgroup are in the
software or hardware industry, and I doubt if most are. Nospam may
be, but maybe just a clerk at Ace.

you know you're full of **** so you are resorting to insults.

when someone says 'developer support' they mean that a developer is
actively developing for a given platform or product.

Even developers need a means of support.

so what? that's not the topic.

when someone says 'developers do not support xyz' they mean that few,
if any developers are writing for that platform and chances are that
platform will fade away.

that's how the term is used. his definition is wrong. end of story.

My definition is correct in the sentence I used.

but incorrect for the discussion.

There is no "end of the story" where you are concerned. You will
always continue to argue.

only as long as you refuse to acknowledge you're wrong.

and you are wrong.

On 2015-09-14 02:39:27 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 17:28:57 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-09-13 23:41:24 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 15:45:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-09-13 22:25:04 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:41:40 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

Le Snip

You can most certainly move a file from one device to another in Win-10!
Select the files, and use the right mouse button. When you release
the mouse button, it allows either move or copy in addition to Create
shortcut.

Once again I was talking about W7. This time when copying files into
Dropbox. Suddenly, when selecting a file with left-click, dragging
didn't just copy a file into Dropbox: it moved it, leaving nothing in
the directory from which it had come.

From a Mac users perspective, that is the way Dropbox works. With OSX,
and I suspect various versions of Windows, there are several ways to
load a file into Dropbox.

1: With the Dropbox folder you can drag the file from its primary
location and it is moved to the desktop DB folder from its original
location, and copied to the DB server. The file will only exist in the
Dropbox desktop folder or sub-folder.

2: Right click on the file icon and select "Move to Dropbox" from the
pop-up menu. The file is moved from its original location to the
desktop Dropbox folder. It is not copied.

On my Windows computer it's "Send to" and then choosing Dropbox. The
file is copied to Dropbox but remains the folder from where it was
sent. Just tried it. I did this by going to StartComputer(file
folder)

When I right-click on a file this is the menu I get with "Move to
Dropbox", and it moves it to the DB desktop folder. It does not copy it.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_294.jpg


Different platforms, different actions result, I guess.

Yup.

3: Using the Dropbox web interface, left click and drag the file to the
location on the DB web page and drop. The file is copied to the DB
server and the original remains unmolested in its original position. It
will also place a copy into the Dropbox desktop folder, or sub-folder.

I'm not sure what you mean by the Dropbox web interface. When I open
Dropbox on the web, I don't have access to a folder to drag from.

Why not?
All I do is open a folder with the image files and pull that on top of
the open Dropbox web site location on my web browser. I select the
image I want in DB, I left-click on it, hold and drag to the browser
window and drop. That is all that is needed.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_293.jpg

I use the import icon to add a file to Dropbox, and this imports a copy.
I could open a separate window and try to drag, but this seems much
more complicated than simply importing.

What could be simpler that drag & drop?

That seems to be a matter of personal preference. I do drag and drop
in some cases, but it often doesn't "hold" when I start to drag. Maybe
it's because I use a trackball, or maybe I just don't have the touch.
I don't think it's a matter of which is the best way as long as the
action is effected.

I use an MS Trackball Optical. It has been my favorite input device for
years. I guess I am just better practiced than you.
http://www.shareware-beach.com/photos/J1282752.jpg


BTW...did you ever check to see if your Dropbox items are viewable on
your iPad when offline?

I just turned off WiFi on my iPad so it is offline, and opened Dropbox.
I got the following DB message, "Unable to Load Recent Files". In
actuallity it is unable to load any files.

Strange. I happened to be out with my iPad today and opened Dropbox
when not online. All images in my Dropbox were viewable.

Looks like things are not standardized for all users of all devices.

Do you have cellular data for your iPad, or do you just use WiFi?

Go to settings and turn off WiFi, and make sure cellular data is not
active, then try to access DB. What you are saying just doesn't make
sense.


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Regards,

Savageduck

In article 2015091320104570524-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

BTW...did you ever check to see if your Dropbox items are viewable on
your iPad when offline?

I just turned off WiFi on my iPad so it is offline, and opened Dropbox.
I got the following DB message, "Unable to Load Recent Files". In
actuallity it is unable to load any files.

Strange. I happened to be out with my iPad today and opened Dropbox
when not online. All images in my Dropbox were viewable.

Looks like things are not standardized for all users of all devices.

Do you have cellular data for your iPad, or do you just use WiFi?

Go to settings and turn off WiFi, and make sure cellular data is not
active, then try to access DB. What you are saying just doesn't make
sense.

airplane mode does that in one step.

On 2015-09-14 03:12:00 +0000, nospam said:

In article 2015091320104570524-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

BTW...did you ever check to see if your Dropbox items are viewable on
your iPad when offline?

I just turned off WiFi on my iPad so it is offline, and opened Dropbox.
I got the following DB message, "Unable to Load Recent Files". In
actuallity it is unable to load any files.

Strange. I happened to be out with my iPad today and opened Dropbox
when not online. All images in my Dropbox were viewable.

Looks like things are not standardized for all users of all devices.

Do you have cellular data for your iPad, or do you just use WiFi?

Go to settings and turn off WiFi, and make sure cellular data is not
active, then try to access DB. What you are saying just doesn't make
sense.

airplane mode does that in one step.

True, I just want to make sure he is truly offline.
The only way Tony can be experiencing Dropbox offline as he says is, is
if he has somehow downloaded the image files from DB to his iPad, but
then he wouldn't be viewing them via DB, or he is unknowingly online
via some mystery WiFi hotspot, or a cellular data connection.

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Regards,

Savageduck

In article 2015091320223620830-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

BTW...did you ever check to see if your Dropbox items are viewable on
your iPad when offline?

I just turned off WiFi on my iPad so it is offline, and opened Dropbox.
I got the following DB message, "Unable to Load Recent Files". In
actuallity it is unable to load any files.

Strange. I happened to be out with my iPad today and opened Dropbox
when not online. All images in my Dropbox were viewable.

Looks like things are not standardized for all users of all devices.

Do you have cellular data for your iPad, or do you just use WiFi?

Go to settings and turn off WiFi, and make sure cellular data is not
active, then try to access DB. What you are saying just doesn't make
sense.

airplane mode does that in one step.

True, I just want to make sure he is truly offline.

airplane mode accomplishes that.

The only way Tony can be experiencing Dropbox offline as he says is, is
if he has somehow downloaded the image files from DB to his iPad, but
then he wouldn't be viewing them via DB, or he is unknowingly online
via some mystery WiFi hotspot, or a cellular data connection.

dropbox on ios syncs when the app is run. if there's no connectivity,
you can only see what has previously been synced.

he may also be incorrectly describing what he did.

On 2015-09-14 03:25:50 +0000, nospam said:

In article 2015091320223620830-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

BTW...did you ever check to see if your Dropbox items are viewable on
your iPad when offline?

I just turned off WiFi on my iPad so it is offline, and opened Dropbox.
I got the following DB message, "Unable to Load Recent Files". In
actuallity it is unable to load any files.

Strange. I happened to be out with my iPad today and opened Dropbox
when not online. All images in my Dropbox were viewable.

Looks like things are not standardized for all users of all devices.

Do you have cellular data for your iPad, or do you just use WiFi?

Go to settings and turn off WiFi, and make sure cellular data is not
active, then try to access DB. What you are saying just doesn't make
sense.

airplane mode does that in one step.

True, I just want to make sure he is truly offline.

airplane mode accomplishes that.

OK

The only way Tony can be experiencing Dropbox offline as he says is, is
if he has somehow downloaded the image files from DB to his iPad, but
then he wouldn't be viewing them via DB, or he is unknowingly online
via some mystery WiFi hotspot, or a cellular data connection.

dropbox on ios syncs when the app is run. if there's no connectivity,
you can only see what has previously been synced.

I have a pretty active Dropbox account and many of my image files have
been loaded in DB for some time and have always been accessible on my
iPhone and iPad with the DB app. However, if I am offline the iPad
cannot connect with the DB server and cannot access the image files on
that server. The result is, offline I see no image files stored on DB
even those which had previously been available when online.


he may also be incorrectly describing what he did.

I will wait for Tony to clarify what he actually has been doing with
his iPad and DB, before I stick my foot in my mouth.

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Savageduck