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Old March 31st 05, 09:53 PM
Ron Hunter
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MarkČ wrote:
"Toni" wrote in message
oups.com...

Like wondering how
many milliseconds of vision and cognitive awareness you could maintain
as
your head falls after having it lopped off by a gillotine...

LOL, I thought I was the only person who ever wondered that. Also,
would you recognize your body over there and would you have time to be
horrified?



I'm not alone after all!!


I also wonder whether if the blade stopped immediately...keeping your
severed head pressed against the blade after detachment...whether the
pressing blade might briefly curb the bleeding enough to maintain a bit more
blood pressure...which might allow a few full seconds of awareness.

II get the death penalty someday I think I'll ask for this, and then try and
devise a way to signal someone like you with my eyes one way or the other...

Deal?


I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8
seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much
about it.


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Old March 31st 05, 09:53 PM
Ron Hunter
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MarkČ wrote:
"Toni" wrote in message
oups.com...

Like wondering how
many milliseconds of vision and cognitive awareness you could maintain
as
your head falls after having it lopped off by a gillotine...

LOL, I thought I was the only person who ever wondered that. Also,
would you recognize your body over there and would you have time to be
horrified?



I'm not alone after all!!


I also wonder whether if the blade stopped immediately...keeping your
severed head pressed against the blade after detachment...whether the
pressing blade might briefly curb the bleeding enough to maintain a bit more
blood pressure...which might allow a few full seconds of awareness.

II get the death penalty someday I think I'll ask for this, and then try and
devise a way to signal someone like you with my eyes one way or the other...

Deal?


I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8
seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much
about it.


--
Ron Hunter
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Old March 31st 05, 10:59 PM
Mike Kohary
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MarkČ wrote:
"Toni" wrote in message
oups.com...
Like wondering how
many milliseconds of vision and cognitive awareness you could
maintain as
your head falls after having it lopped off by a gillotine...

LOL, I thought I was the only person who ever wondered that. Also,
would you recognize your body over there and would you have time to
be horrified?


I'm not alone after all!!


I also wonder whether if the blade stopped immediately...keeping your
severed head pressed against the blade after detachment...whether the
pressing blade might briefly curb the bleeding enough to maintain a
bit more blood pressure...which might allow a few full seconds of
awareness.
II get the death penalty someday I think I'll ask for this, and then
try and devise a way to signal someone like you with my eyes one way
or the other...
Deal?


So, you were saying about IQ...?

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Old April 1st 05, 03:11 AM
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Ken Tough writes:

I'm sure the massive shock straight to your central nervous system
(through the spinal cord) would zap you unconscious straight away.
That's not to say dead, just unconscious, like the karate chop to
the neck thing.


People executed by the guillotine remain conscious for a few seconds. A
French doctor once did some observations of executions to determine
this. But a constant and generous blood supply to the brain is
necessary to allow this, and so the period of remaining consciousness
(if any) is extremely brief.

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Old April 1st 05, 03:11 AM
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Ron Hunter writes:

I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8
seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much
about it.


In the case of guillotine executions, they simply observed the person's
head. He couldn't speak, but he turn his eyes to look at someone
speaking to him.

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Old April 1st 05, 03:15 AM
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Owamanga wrote:
An interesting discussion, may be of interest to anyone who ever
photographs medium to large groups of 5 year-olds:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&fpart=1&vc=1

or he

http://tinyurl.com/6tqes

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just don't photograph them or you'll be arrested in this era of
pedophile mania

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Old April 1st 05, 08:42 AM
Ken Tough
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Ron Hunter writes:
I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8
seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much
about it.


In the case of guillotine executions, they simply observed the person's
head. He couldn't speak, but he turn his eyes to look at someone
speaking to him.


That doesn't necessarily imply consciousness. The same works with
people dreaming in REM sleep, though their eyelids are closed.
I don't think 18th century medical research on consciousness is
going to be all that reliable. I'll grant that brain activity
won't stop instantly, but doubt it involves consciousness.

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Old April 1st 05, 08:48 AM
Ron Hunter
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retoohs wrote:
Owamanga wrote:

An interesting discussion, may be of interest to anyone who ever
photographs medium to large groups of 5 year-olds:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&fpart=1&vc=1


or he

http://tinyurl.com/6tqes

--
Owamanga!
http://www.pbase.com/owamanga


just don't photograph them or you'll be arrested in this era of
pedophile mania

Alan


That is possible. State law here only requires that a picture be
'provocative' in order to be classified as child pornography. So what,
exactly, IS provocative? What I consider 'cute' may be 'provocative' to
someone else. The classic nude baby on the bearskin rug is DEFINITELY
illegal here. sigh.


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Old April 1st 05, 08:48 AM
Ron Hunter
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retoohs wrote:
Owamanga wrote:

An interesting discussion, may be of interest to anyone who ever
photographs medium to large groups of 5 year-olds:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&fpart=1&vc=1


or he

http://tinyurl.com/6tqes

--
Owamanga!
http://www.pbase.com/owamanga


just don't photograph them or you'll be arrested in this era of
pedophile mania

Alan


That is possible. State law here only requires that a picture be
'provocative' in order to be classified as child pornography. So what,
exactly, IS provocative? What I consider 'cute' may be 'provocative' to
someone else. The classic nude baby on the bearskin rug is DEFINITELY
illegal here. sigh.


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Ron Hunter
 




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