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On 2016-01-24 09:46, David Taylor wrote:
On 24/01/2016 13:17, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , android says... The consensus is that if you really want an all in one then the iMac is the way to go... The real way to go is, however to buy a Mini Mac and hook up a screen of your choice! Fine, but is there anything with Windows? Yes, for example Dell offer 23-inch and 24-inch units. Their latest: http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-24...?ref=PD_Family Doubtless other manufacturers offer something similar. "All-in-one" appears to be Dell's key phrase for these PCs. http://www.dell.com/uk/p/desktops The units have just a full HD display, though. Indeed ... so coarse Dell seem embarrassed to list the pixel dimensions on that impressive-to-the-innocent page of specs. It's likely 1080 which is pretty coarse by today's standards. My ancient (2012) iMac (27") is 2560 x 1440 and an up to date iMac retina is 4096 x 2304 pixels. -- "But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with ****ty luck." ..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02 |
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In article , android
says... Why? Very simple - I don't have any Mac software. And I have no clue whether and how Windows will run on a Mac. If Apple were offering Macs with preinstalled Windows (why aren't they?), I would consider one. But I'm surprised that you suggest a Mac, when almost everybody is using Windows machines. I couldn't care less about Windows vs Mac vs Linux vs whatever. But since everything I have is with Windows, my next PC will be a Windows one. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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On 2016-01-24 09:58, Lewis wrote:
In message Alan Browne wrote: On 2016-01-24 09:40, android wrote: In article , Alan Browne wrote: On 2016-01-24 08:28, android wrote: In article , Alfred Molon wrote: In article , android says... The consensus is that if you really want an all in one then the iMac is the way to go... The real way to go is, however to buy a Mini Mac and hook up a screen of your choice! Fine, but is there anything with Windows? Why? Whatever! You can run W10 in Bootcamp IIRC... Bootcamp is next to useless. Run Windows in a VM such as VMWare Fusion or Parallels. Whatever, some have very little use for Windows. I boot it once or twice per month on average... iMac's are fantastic. For a Windows user who has a monitor, keyboard and mouse, the Mac Mini is a fine transition machine, but none come with a quad core i7. The newer iMac's with 5K retina displays are magnificent. I like to Lego approach... One pice broken? Then fix THAT one. The only difference between a Mac mini setup and an iMac is the screen and the brick. The Mac Mini has become a turd in terms of repairing - though not as bad as an iMac which now involves ordering a glue-gasket to put it all back together ... You do not need a glue gun for an iMac. I never said one did. What one does need is the glue-gasket to put the screen bezel back in place after making a repair. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+In...lacement/15624 There are significant differences between the Mac mini and the iMac. Processors and GPU are the most obvious ones. Yes, I alluded to that elsewhere in this thread. -- "But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with ****ty luck." ..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02 |
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Alan Browne wrote: On 2016-01-24 09:40, android wrote: In article , Alan Browne wrote: On 2016-01-24 08:28, android wrote: In article , Alfred Molon wrote: In article , android says... The consensus is that if you really want an all in one then the iMac is the way to go... The real way to go is, however to buy a Mini Mac and hook up a screen of your choice! Fine, but is there anything with Windows? Why? Whatever! You can run W10 in Bootcamp IIRC... Bootcamp is next to useless. Run Windows in a VM such as VMWare Fusion or Parallels. Whatever, some have very little use for Windows. I boot it once or twice per month on average... iMac's are fantastic. For a Windows user who has a monitor, keyboard and mouse, the Mac Mini is a fine transition machine, but none come with a quad core i7. The newer iMac's with 5K retina displays are magnificent. I like to Lego approach... One pice broken? Then fix THAT one. The only difference between a Mac mini setup and an iMac is the screen and the brick. The Mac Mini has become a turd in terms of repairing - though not as bad as an iMac which now involves ordering a glue-gasket to put it all back together ... Lego: If the CPU is a gonner then i get to keep the display. If the display lost it then i get to keep the CPU. That's the way that I want it. So, for a photographer who needs a great displays and a powerful main processor and pretty good graphics processor, the iMac has it all over what one could do with a mini and 3rd party monitor. But I wanna pick the display meself! If one wants the 'lego' approach one might as well stick to desktop machines. The MacPro isn't that different in the respect that it's a unit separated from the screen -- teleportation kills |
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On 2016-01-24 04:55, android wrote:
In article , Alfred Molon wrote: Just curious if anyone is using all in one PCs for image processing and if yes which ones. The consensus is that if you really want an all in one then the iMac is the way to go... The real way to go is, however to buy a Mini Mac and hook up a screen of your choice! Personally I'm currently eyeing some models with a 24" or 27" screen and 4K resolution. Yeah - Android x-posted this to the Mac group making it look like you were interested in Macs as well - I picked up on it in the Mac group. FU set. -- "But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with ****ty luck." ..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02 |
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| Just curious if anyone is using all in one PCs for image processing and
| if yes which ones. | | Personally I'm currently eyeing some models with a 24" or 27" screen and | 4K resolution. You might want to ask in a Windows forum if you want to hear from people who actually know about Windows. The all-in-ones are basically budget machines. Like iMacs, they have limited upgradeability, yet typically cost far too much for what you get because of the basic rule of electronics: Smaller costs more. And like any kind of all-in-one, if one part breaks you may have to junk the whole thing. If you want the best possible display then I wonder why you'd limit yourself to all-in-ones. Presumably you don't need portability, so why not just have a desktop computer and look for the best monitor? |
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Alfred Molon wrote: my next PC will be a Windows one. Oki... -- teleportation kills |
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Alan Browne wrote: On 2016-01-24 04:55, android wrote: In article , Alfred Molon wrote: Just curious if anyone is using all in one PCs for image processing and if yes which ones. The consensus is that if you really want an all in one then the iMac is the way to go... The real way to go is, however to buy a Mini Mac and hook up a screen of your choice! Personally I'm currently eyeing some models with a 24" or 27" screen and 4K resolution. Yeah - Android x-posted this to the Mac group making it look like you were interested in Macs as well - I picked up on it in the Mac group. FU set. Since oninalls is generally Macturf I thought that Alfred could get some useful input from the Mac group. I was right. -- teleportation kills |
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In article , android
says... Since oninalls is generally Macturf I thought that Alfred could get some useful input from the Mac group. I was right. Indeed I got some "interesting" input. Somebody insulted me for no reason. I've nothing against Macs. It's just that my stuff is all Windows... -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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In article , Mayayana says...
You might want to ask in a Windows forum if you want to hear from people who actually know about Windows. I asked in rpd - never posted in a Mac forum. The all-in-ones are basically budget machines. Not really. Some are quite high-end (4K screens, I7 processors, 32GB RAM etc.) Like iMacs, they have limited upgradeability, yet typically cost far too much for what you get because of the basic rule of electronics: Smaller costs more. And like any kind of all-in-one, if one part breaks you may have to junk the whole thing. Unless you can repair it and upgrade it yourself. But unfortunately many AiOs are stuff which is glued together :-( If you want the best possible display then I wonder why you'd limit yourself to all-in-ones. Convenience - only one "box", no mess of multiple boxes connected with cables. Presumably you don't need portability, so why not just have a desktop computer and look for the best monitor? See above. In principle the ideal device is a 24-27" tablet with fast i7 processor, 32GB RAM or more, slot for SSD and slot for 2.5" HDD, 4K high quality display (those with the new RGB LEDs), user upgradeable (user can open it and replace/upgrade HDD, SSD and memory, weight as light possible ( 2 or 3 Kg). With sort of a mounting bracket so that you can fix it as a monior and take it off in case you want. Internal battery not needed or perhaps small for for 5 minutes of autonomy, in case the power gets cut off for some reason. But we are quite far away from such as a device. Currently on the market you find only behemoths with up to 16 Kg of weight. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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