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Upgrade report - SSD & photo software
I finally gave up on the cloning, and did a fresh install of Win 10 on
a new SSD. The point of this was to see if I could rejuvenate a 7 or 8 year old laptop, and to see how much better LR would work with only the change from HDD to an SSD. The laptop is maxed out at 8 GB memory, and has a 2.2 Ghz Intel CPU. The main test I used was the spot removal function, which was usable, but terribly crippled before the changes. After choosing a large-ish target area, I would move the source area around to see how easily it would follow the mouse movement. Before the SSD, it would take forever. So the verdict is that the SSD made a huge difference, and is definitely worth a try if you have a PC that seems a bit sluggish working with photo software. Spot removal now works nearly as well as on my far better spec'd desktop. It's like having a new laptop. But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random times, also. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. So if you do have some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost certainly be a huge improvement. |
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In article , Bill W
wrote: But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random times, also. while windows has its issues, there shouldn't be any crashes at all, repeated or not. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. that could be why you are having crashes. So if you do have some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost certainly be a huge improvement. swapping an hd for an ssd has zero effect on the choice of os. if whatever is on there now works, it will work after the swap, just faster. it's just 'another sata drive'. |
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 16:03:55 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random times, also. while windows has its issues, there shouldn't be any crashes at all, repeated or not. Using it recently after I was done with everything, there haven't been any crashes, but I haven't used it much. It might be okay, though. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. that could be why you are having crashes. It might also be why I have low read/write speeds - ~250 for each. So if you do have some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost certainly be a huge improvement. swapping an hd for an ssd has zero effect on the choice of os. if whatever is on there now works, it will work after the swap, just faster. it's just 'another sata drive'. Right - that comment was mostly related to OS upgrades. As a corollary to what you said, if you're having trouble with Win 10 on an older laptop, those troubles will obviously continue with an SSD upgrade. My crashes are probably rooted in the clean install, and the need to find drivers all over again, along with getting all the settings right. |
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In article , Bill W
wrote: At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. that could be why you are having crashes. It might also be why I have low read/write speeds - ~250 for each. 250 of what units and what time frame? and how is the drive connected? So if you do have some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost certainly be a huge improvement. swapping an hd for an ssd has zero effect on the choice of os. if whatever is on there now works, it will work after the swap, just faster. it's just 'another sata drive'. Right - that comment was mostly related to OS upgrades. As a corollary to what you said, if you're having trouble with Win 10 on an older laptop, those troubles will obviously continue with an SSD upgrade. yep My crashes are probably rooted in the clean install, and the need to find drivers all over again, along with getting all the settings right. quite likely. |
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 17:03:58 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. that could be why you are having crashes. It might also be why I have low read/write speeds - ~250 for each. 250 of what units and what time frame? MB/s. Isn't Sata 2 limited to 300? I'm assuming that's the issue. and how is the drive connected? It's a laptop, so there are no options internally. So if you do have some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost certainly be a huge improvement. swapping an hd for an ssd has zero effect on the choice of os. if whatever is on there now works, it will work after the swap, just faster. it's just 'another sata drive'. Right - that comment was mostly related to OS upgrades. As a corollary to what you said, if you're having trouble with Win 10 on an older laptop, those troubles will obviously continue with an SSD upgrade. yep My crashes are probably rooted in the clean install, and the need to find drivers all over again, along with getting all the settings right. quite likely. |
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In article , Bill W
wrote: At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. that could be why you are having crashes. It might also be why I have low read/write speeds - ~250 for each. 250 of what units and what time frame? MB/s. Isn't Sata 2 limited to 300? I'm assuming that's the issue. yep, so 250 mbyte/s is reasonable. and how is the drive connected? It's a laptop, so there are no options internally. internal would be sata. external could be anything. |
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On 12/26/2017 8:11 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Bill W wrote: At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. that could be why you are having crashes. It might also be why I have low read/write speeds - ~250 for each. 250 of what units and what time frame? MB/s. Isn't Sata 2 limited to 300? I'm assuming that's the issue. yep, so 250 mbyte/s is reasonable. and how is the drive connected? It's a laptop, so there are no options internally. internal would be sata. external could be anything. Regardless of computer issues, I just want to wish everybody a happy and healthy holiday season and following year. -- PeterN |
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On 27/12/2017 7:27 @wiz, Bill W wrote:
But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random times, also. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. So if you do hav some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. My Samsung laptop can't be updated to Win10, apparently the wifi chipset it uses is not "compatible" with it, whatever that means for Microslop nowadays. The end result is it will stay on win7Pro-64 for the foreseeable future. Which will include an SSD for sure at some stage. My work laptop is on Win10, it's a recent HP. And it needs an update almost every week. Good thing it's my employerpaying for the downloads, because I wouldn't! Same for my desktop: the 3 year old mobo apparently is not "compatible" either. Microslop and wheir W10 can go jump in a lake, I'll stick to 7Pro-64. |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 15:10:10 +1100, Noons
wrote: On 27/12/2017 7:27 @wiz, Bill W wrote: But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random times, also. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. So if you do hav some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. My Samsung laptop can't be updated to Win10, apparently the wifi chipset it uses is not "compatible" with it, whatever that means for Microslop nowadays. The end result is it will stay on win7Pro-64 for the foreseeable future. Which will include an SSD for sure at some stage. My work laptop is on Win10, it's a recent HP. And it needs an update almost every week. Good thing it's my employerpaying for the downloads, because I wouldn't! Same for my desktop: the 3 year old mobo apparently is not "compatible" either. Microslop and wheir W10 can go jump in a lake, I'll stick to 7Pro-64. The Windows update checker flagged endless compatibility issues with my laptop, but I installed Win 10 anyway, and then spent a good amount of time finding drivers, including for the wifi. I did get everything working, but it might not be worth the trouble for lots of people. You need to have some time on your hands. |
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On 2017-12-26 20:27:49 +0000, Bill W said:
I finally gave up on the cloning, and did a fresh install of Win 10 on a new SSD. The point of this was to see if I could rejuvenate a 7 or 8 year old laptop, and to see how much better LR would work with only the change from HDD to an SSD. The laptop is maxed out at 8 GB memory, and has a 2.2 Ghz Intel CPU. The main test I used was the spot removal function, which was usable, but terribly crippled before the changes. After choosing a large-ish target area, I would move the source area around to see how easily it would follow the mouse movement. Before the SSD, it would take forever. So the verdict is that the SSD made a huge difference, and is definitely worth a try if you have a PC that seems a bit sluggish working with photo software. Spot removal now works nearly as well as on my far better spec'd desktop. It's like having a new laptop. But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random times, also. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. So if you do have some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost certainly be a huge improvement. I have W10 on my Acer notebook, a c2d with 8GB RAM... It's unbelivable how slow it is compared to my old Mac Mini, another c2d but with OSX Snow Leopard and 3GB in use. -- teleportation kills |
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