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"Michael" wrote in message ... "William Graham" wrote in message . .. Look. We can make this personal, and about me. Or we can extend the problem to where it really needs to be....To a general problem that's not getting any better that affects the whole society. I partially solved my problem this New Year's Eve by getting a motel room in Silverton, so I will only have to drive 4 miles after dark, instead of 20. but not everyone can afford, or is willing to go that far. And I will still have to drive over 4 miles after dark this Sunday evening. My motel room will cost me about $80..... This is about YOU taking responsibility for YOURSELF not US taking responsibility for you. Bill, you know you have a problem driving after dark yet you continue to do so. IF I were in your position I would do what ever I needed to avoid driving at night. We are ALL responsible for our own action, no if ans or buts. An $80 motel room is the best I can do this time.....Normally, My wife would be here to drive me, but she is down in California visiting her grandchildren.........The road between Mt. Angel and Silverton is straight as an arrow, and pretty easy to negotiate. I won't have any problem...... |
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:37:20 -0800, "Michael" wrote: This is about YOU taking responsibility for YOURSELF not US taking responsibility for you. Bill, you know you have a problem driving after dark yet you continue to do so. IF I were in your position I would do what ever I needed to avoid driving at night. We are ALL responsible for our own action, no if ans or buts. Yeah. Strange mixture of pioneer spirit and gimmee-gimmee client of socialism. I HOPE he's just trolling :-) I told you guys the problem, hoping you might try to do something about it, but I can see I just wasted my time. You insist on personalizing everything....The problem has been here since long before me, and it will be here long after I am gone. It is you who are turning your backs on it, and it is you who will intimately suffer for it. As of now, I am washing my hands of it.....I will post no more about it. |
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"William Graham" wrote in message . .. Look. We can make this personal, and about me. Or we can extend the problem to where it really needs to be....To a general problem that's not getting any better that affects the whole society. I partially solved my problem this New Year's Eve by getting a motel room in Silverton, so I will only have to drive 4 miles after dark, instead of 20. but not everyone can afford, or is willing to go that far. And I will still have to drive over 4 miles after dark this Sunday evening. My motel room will cost me about $80..... This is about YOU taking responsibility for YOURSELF not US taking responsibility for you. Bill, you know you have a problem driving after dark yet you continue to do so. IF I were in your position I would do what ever I needed to avoid driving at night. We are ALL responsible for our own action, no if ans or buts. |
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William Graham wrote:
"Ron Hunter" wrote in message ... Laurence Payne wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:56:06 -0700, Bill Funk wrote: Don't be quite so condescending. I never said anything to indicate I am scared. I pointed out that there are problems with electric cars that most people don't think of, and that they can be overcome. And, why would we need to find a way that embraces expensive and scarce energy? Shouldn't we be looking for a way to embrace inexpensive and easily available energy? I first visited America in the early 70s. One thing surprised me. My hosts were incapable of rational discussion on the subject of communism. (Which they confused with socialism.) Anyway, they were frightened of it. I now detect the same regarding energy and pollution. I'm sure I over-generalise. But I'm definitely detecting it here. Communism and socialism are quite similar, differing only in who decides how goods and services are be distributed, and by whom. Yup. - I put them in the same bag with liberalism......Or, "Robinhoodism" as I like to call it....Steal from the rich to give to the poor....... Or government: Steal from everyone, and keep it. Grin. |
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William Graham wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message ... "William Graham" wrote in message . .. Look. We can make this personal, and about me. Or we can extend the problem to where it really needs to be....To a general problem that's not getting any better that affects the whole society. I partially solved my problem this New Year's Eve by getting a motel room in Silverton, so I will only have to drive 4 miles after dark, instead of 20. but not everyone can afford, or is willing to go that far. And I will still have to drive over 4 miles after dark this Sunday evening. My motel room will cost me about $80..... This is about YOU taking responsibility for YOURSELF not US taking responsibility for you. Bill, you know you have a problem driving after dark yet you continue to do so. IF I were in your position I would do what ever I needed to avoid driving at night. We are ALL responsible for our own action, no if ans or buts. An $80 motel room is the best I can do this time.....Normally, My wife would be here to drive me, but she is down in California visiting her grandchildren.........The road between Mt. Angel and Silverton is straight as an arrow, and pretty easy to negotiate. I won't have any problem...... Yes, I just looked at it on GoogleEarth, and it is quite straight, and not a long way. Now if no one pulls out in front of you on a tractor..... |
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Ron Hunter wrote: William Graham wrote: That was solved over 50 years ago.....Nuclear power......Right now, 60% pf the power we use here in the US comes from burning coal. For some crazy reason, we are way behind on the utilization of nuclear power....That will have to change...... It won't, because uneducated people have been so scared by those who have financial interest in other fuels that they go bonkers at the mere mention of nuclear power. I gas-powered plant can blow up and it gets 3 inches on page 20, but let a valve malfunction in a nuclear plant, and it is front page news. Agreed, but it raises the interesting question of exactly what is the financial interest that the big media conglomerates have in helping to prevent the building of safe, economical, and clean nuclear power plants in the U.S...... |
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"Ron Hunter" wrote in message ... William Graham wrote: "Ron Hunter" wrote in message ... Laurence Payne wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:56:06 -0700, Bill Funk wrote: Don't be quite so condescending. I never said anything to indicate I am scared. I pointed out that there are problems with electric cars that most people don't think of, and that they can be overcome. And, why would we need to find a way that embraces expensive and scarce energy? Shouldn't we be looking for a way to embrace inexpensive and easily available energy? I first visited America in the early 70s. One thing surprised me. My hosts were incapable of rational discussion on the subject of communism. (Which they confused with socialism.) Anyway, they were frightened of it. I now detect the same regarding energy and pollution. I'm sure I over-generalise. But I'm definitely detecting it here. Communism and socialism are quite similar, differing only in who decides how goods and services are be distributed, and by whom. Yup. - I put them in the same bag with liberalism......Or, "Robinhoodism" as I like to call it....Steal from the rich to give to the poor....... Or government: Steal from everyone, and keep it. Grin. Yes. They don't always give it to the poor....Sometimes they just shoot it into space...... |
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"Ron Hunter" wrote in message ... William Graham wrote: "Michael" wrote in message ... "William Graham" wrote in message . .. Look. We can make this personal, and about me. Or we can extend the problem to where it really needs to be....To a general problem that's not getting any better that affects the whole society. I partially solved my problem this New Year's Eve by getting a motel room in Silverton, so I will only have to drive 4 miles after dark, instead of 20. but not everyone can afford, or is willing to go that far. And I will still have to drive over 4 miles after dark this Sunday evening. My motel room will cost me about $80..... This is about YOU taking responsibility for YOURSELF not US taking responsibility for you. Bill, you know you have a problem driving after dark yet you continue to do so. IF I were in your position I would do what ever I needed to avoid driving at night. We are ALL responsible for our own action, no if ans or buts. An $80 motel room is the best I can do this time.....Normally, My wife would be here to drive me, but she is down in California visiting her grandchildren.........The road between Mt. Angel and Silverton is straight as an arrow, and pretty easy to negotiate. I won't have any problem...... Yes, I just looked at it on GoogleEarth, and it is quite straight, and not a long way. Now if no one pulls out in front of you on a tractor..... That's why I will be going 1/2 the speed limit, and with my brights on......... |
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