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Sigma Goes Cine
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ -- teleportation kills |
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Sigma Goes Cine
On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? You did read the article you linked, didn't you? And, you do know the difference between cine and photo lenses, right? -- Best regards, Neil |
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Sigma Goes Cine
In article , Neil
wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. -- teleportation kills |
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Sigma Goes Cine
On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and 50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of an existing lens, that's a different lens. |
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Sigma Goes Cine
In article , PAS wrote:
On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote: In article , Neil wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and 50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of an existing lens, that's a different lens. The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR world. "FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K * 8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras¹ image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of compatible cameras." Specs on the by you mentioned lenses: http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704 91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=& xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120 or http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z -- teleportation kills |
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Sigma Goes Cine
On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote: In article , Neil wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and 50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of an existing lens, that's a different lens. The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR world. "FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K * 8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras¹ image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of compatible cameras." Specs on the by you mentioned lenses: http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704 91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=& xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120 or http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses. |
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Sigma Goes Cine
In article , PAS wrote:
On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote: In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote: In article , Neil wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and 50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of an existing lens, that's a different lens. The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR world. "FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K - 8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1 image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of compatible cameras." Specs on the by you mentioned lenses: http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704 91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=& xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120 or http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses. I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine". -- teleportation kills |
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Sigma Goes Cine
On 9/8/2016 11:34 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote: In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote: In article , Neil wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and 50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of an existing lens, that's a different lens. The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR world. "FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K - 8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1 image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of compatible cameras." Specs on the by you mentioned lenses: http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704 91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=& xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120 or http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses. I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine". Are folks buying cine lenses just to use for photos? Who would think that there is a benefit to pay more for a cine lens when it's only used for stills? |
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Sigma Goes Cine
In article , PAS wrote:
On 9/8/2016 11:34 AM, android wrote: In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote: In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote: In article , Neil wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and 50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of an existing lens, that's a different lens. The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR world. "FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K - 8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1 image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of compatible cameras." Specs on the by you mentioned lenses: http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704 91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=& xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120 or http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses. I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine". Are folks buying cine lenses just to use for photos? Who would think that there is a benefit to pay more for a cine lens when it's only used for stills? Some people are picky and get that they think is the best. If there's a hype created around cine lenses then some might buy for photo. I don't se the problem with calling a spade a spade. There's no evident yet that these Sigma "Cines" are better than "Arts" for stills. The users should be aware of the similarities between the lines. The good thing with this is that studio photogs now gets an authorized set of T values for their Arts just like Samyang users got then Samy did the same thing that Siggy appears to have done now. -- teleportation kills |
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Sigma Goes Cine
On 9/8/2016 11:34 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote: In article , PAS wrote: On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote: In article , Neil wrote: On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote: Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases: http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5 -prime/ On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo lenses? There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values. So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and 50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of an existing lens, that's a different lens. The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR world. "FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K - 8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1 image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of compatible cameras." Specs on the by you mentioned lenses: http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704 91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=& xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120 or http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses. I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine". Yes, the customer has the right to know. And it is up to the customer to research the issue. -- PeterN |
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