Camera JPEG engines

In article , tony cooper
wrote:

Yeah, but didn't you have a router in those booster pockets?

what's a booster pocket?

http://www.safetycops.com/shoplifting.htm

Second item under "Methods used by shoplifters".

you're rather familiar with shoplifting techniques. is that what you do
in retirement, now that you aren't working anymore?

my jacket does not have booster pockets, nor does it have baggy pockets
sewn inside, nor is it baggy when full of stuff.

yet again, you're talking out your ass.

On 21/11/2012 10:25 PM, Anthony Polson wrote:
Rob wrote:

On 21/11/2012 10:05 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-11-20 14:32:10 -0800, Rob said:

On 21/11/2012 8:17 AM, Frank S wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message
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On 20/11/2012 7:15 PM, David Taylor wrote:
On 20/11/2012 07:02, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Rob says...
No but I don't get to go places all the time so I take quite a
few
images when I travel - 7000 images last time

It must take forever to process all these images.

So you try and get them right in the camera, rather than relying on
having to post-process!

Yes - getting them right in the first place to eliminates post
processing. Taking heaps of happy snaps and scabbing a shot is far
from ideal.

Having an understanding of what you are doing. Evaluating the scene
and thinking what will happen. Difficult situations like wind, extreme
contrast, sports etc - you should know how to maximise to get the shot.

Understand your camera.



Yes - I would like to understand "scabbing" in this context.



Take lots of shots and fluke a keeper.

Aah! The search for the magnificent miracle.

No wonder you fill up those cards with JPEGs.




It was not me to whom I was referring.


But you're the guy who shoots RAW+JPEG, admits to doing very little in
the way of deleting images and regularly needs to buy additional
terabytes of hard disk space to store them all.

How many thousands of "decisive moments" are there?


If that was me?

I don't shoot jpg and raw - only in exceptional circumstances. But now
can shoot HDR at once.

My camera makes ~18mb JPG images. With this in mind, I have to re
appraise my work flow/storage to a manageable level.

I did buy extra SD cards to act as storage on longer trips. this was
cheaper than buying a new portable computer or HDD device. I take about
256Gb of cards with me on trips whereas before had 2x 32Gb cards which
never were filled.

Still needing more storage on my PC have bought a 3TB HDD because my
JPG file size is now 4x bigger. CD's DVD's have become useless as
storage. So far I have taken 8000 images (some deleted) which translates
into 230Gb of HDD space in just 4 months. I just can't keep going like
this or there will be a room full of HDD's.

I don't like evaluating and deleting images off the camera screen or a
laptop computer whilst travelling. It still takes me months to actually
look at all my images from one trip.

On 21/11/2012 21:10, Anthony Polson wrote:
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I wasn't arguing with you, David. I merely added my problem with
"display" to your problem with "CPU-intensive processes".

Yes, I appreciate that.

I was interested in your comments about the iPad with the Retina
display.

I usually carry my MacBook Pro with the 15.6" Retina display but when
I want to travel light and I don't need to edit images a Windows
netbook is sufficient. I'm considering changing to the MacBook Pro
13.3" Retina because the 15.6" version is too bulky. What I would
really like is an 11" version but I don't expect Apple will ever make
one. There is a MacBook Air 11" but as discussed here previously
there are reasons to avoid the Air and I need the Retina display.

A way around this might be to use an iPad v3 or v4 with the Retina
display. I wonder what flavour of Photoshop could be installed on it?

Yes, there are some photo editing programs, but it's not something I've
used in the field, or even installed. There is a large convenience
factor in an A4 size display you can carry around, and you can read SD
cards straight in. Having it do maps (with or without Internet access)
and the other Internet things you might want while on the move (mail,
Twitter, Facebook, BBC news, podcast, sky-maps etc. etc.) as well is an
added bonus. Certainly the most fun computing item I've bought for ages!
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

In article , Floyd L. Davidson says...
Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Floyd L. Davidson says...
Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Floyd L. Davidson says...
Among those were 2,500 not even
developed rolls of film.

What a waste of film. He should have used digital cameras.

For the work he did on the first of his three Guggenheim
Fellowship Awards received between 1964 and 1979?

And I thought I made myself clear. Those 2500 rolls of film which were
never developed are a waste of film - because they were never developed.

Nobody said they were "never" developed. Just that
Winogrand had not developed them yet. And if that was
all you meant, why did you say "He should have used
digital cameras."

Your original comment was ignorant, which means you
really should have just said nothing since you didn't
know anything about it. But now you followup with
something that is just plain stupid. You are all but
denying that you said, and I responded to, the part
about using digital. Trying to change what you said
after the fact isn't going to fly...

No. The fact he never developed those thousands of rolls means he never
even saw those images. A waste of film (and it's unclear if those 2500
rolls will ever be developed). At least if he had used digital, he would
have seen the images.
--

Alfred Molon
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Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

On 2012-11-21 22:54:02 -0800, David Taylor
said:

On 21/11/2012 21:10, Anthony Polson wrote:
[]
I wasn't arguing with you, David. I merely added my problem with
"display" to your problem with "CPU-intensive processes".

Yes, I appreciate that.

I was interested in your comments about the iPad with the Retina
display.

I usually carry my MacBook Pro with the 15.6" Retina display but when
I want to travel light and I don't need to edit images a Windows
netbook is sufficient. I'm considering changing to the MacBook Pro
13.3" Retina because the 15.6" version is too bulky. What I would
really like is an 11" version but I don't expect Apple will ever make
one. There is a MacBook Air 11" but as discussed here previously
there are reasons to avoid the Air and I need the Retina display.

A way around this might be to use an iPad v3 or v4 with the Retina
display. I wonder what flavour of Photoshop could be installed on it?

Yes, there are some photo editing programs, but it's not something I've
used in the field, or even installed. There is a large convenience
factor in an A4 size display you can carry around, and you can read SD
cards straight in. Having it do maps (with or without Internet access)
and the other Internet things you might want while on the move (mail,
Twitter, Facebook, BBC news, podcast, sky-maps etc. etc.) as well is an
added bonus. Certainly the most fun computing item I've bought for
ages!

No! No! No! Not Twitter or FaceBook!
A curse on both their houses! ...and that FaceBook adoptee, Instagram. ;-)

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 21/11/2012 20:37, Savageduck wrote:
[]
Not wanting to harp on a point, the ColorSpace UDMA provides just such a
field backup device with plenty of room.
The iPad, and I have a 64GB iPad2, is limited in storage space. It can
be useful in a pinch, but it is not ideal. I would consider using the
iPad as a JPEG review platform, but not for temporary archive of RAW
files. Since there is no simple way to transfer files from a CF card to
an iPad, with the dual slots on my D300S I would shoot RAW+JPEG with RAW
going to the CF card and the JPEGs to the SDHC. The SDHC, JPEGS are then
easily moved to the iPad with the Apple Camera Connection Kit.

I would also consider using my iPad as a portal to move RAW files to
some sort of cloud storage as another type of backup, say DropBox or
PogoPlug. I have a 1TB drive on my PogoPlug device, that would give me
another backup which was not physically vulnerable on the road. That way
the RAW files would be deleted from the iPad once that transfer was
complete.

My main photographic use of my iPad is to have a handy portfolio of
albums of images I have already put through post processing so they can
be used for show and sharing.

As I don't do RAW, a 64 GB iPad would be more than adequate. I take SD
and not CF which also adds to the convenience. I don't want to have to
take yet another device (and its connection cables, and charger, and
having to remember to charge it, and find a mains socket for it).

Yes, DropBox is convenient, and I appreciate your needs are different,
so I'm sure that the ColourSpace information will be useful to others.
Just looked at their Web page - a bit expensive, aren't they?

Thanks.
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 2012-11-21 23:00:17 -0800, David Taylor
said:

On 21/11/2012 20:37, Savageduck wrote:
[]
Not wanting to harp on a point, the ColorSpace UDMA provides just such a
field backup device with plenty of room.
The iPad, and I have a 64GB iPad2, is limited in storage space. It can
be useful in a pinch, but it is not ideal. I would consider using the
iPad as a JPEG review platform, but not for temporary archive of RAW
files. Since there is no simple way to transfer files from a CF card to
an iPad, with the dual slots on my D300S I would shoot RAW+JPEG with RAW
going to the CF card and the JPEGs to the SDHC. The SDHC, JPEGS are then
easily moved to the iPad with the Apple Camera Connection Kit.

I would also consider using my iPad as a portal to move RAW files to
some sort of cloud storage as another type of backup, say DropBox or
PogoPlug. I have a 1TB drive on my PogoPlug device, that would give me
another backup which was not physically vulnerable on the road. That way
the RAW files would be deleted from the iPad once that transfer was
complete.

My main photographic use of my iPad is to have a handy portfolio of
albums of images I have already put through post processing so they can
be used for show and sharing.

As I don't do RAW, a 64 GB iPad would be more than adequate. I take SD
and not CF which also adds to the convenience. I don't want to have to
take yet another device (and its connection cables, and charger, and
having to remember to charge it, and find a mains socket for it).

Yes, DropBox is convenient, and I appreciate your needs are different,
so I'm sure that the ColourSpace information will be useful to others.
Just looked at their Web page - a bit expensive, aren't they?

Thanks.

Their high capacity units are unrealistically over priced.
I originally bought a 250GB UDMA for $300 almost 4 years ago. I
upgraded it myself to 1TB for $95. Its power needs are very modest. I
last fully charge it 3 months ago and have used it for several local
trips performing full and incremental backups. The battery is currently
showing an 80% charge. No charger is needed as it will charge via USB
cable if needed.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 22/11/2012 06:58, Savageduck wrote:
[]
No! No! No! Not Twitter or FaceBook!
A curse on both their houses! ...and that FaceBook adoptee, Instagram. ;-)

I don't use Facebook myself - I don't quite see the point of it.
Twitter, on the other hand, I do find very useful as a lot of people in
motor racing are regular posters, including journalists and the drivers
themselves. There may be photographic users as well but I've never
looked for them.
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 22/11/2012 07:16, Savageduck wrote:
[]
Their high capacity units are unrealistically over priced.
I originally bought a 250GB UDMA for $300 almost 4 years ago. I upgraded
it myself to 1TB for $95. Its power needs are very modest. I last fully
charge it 3 months ago and have used it for several local trips
performing full and incremental backups. The battery is currently
showing an 80% charge. No charger is needed as it will charge via USB
cable if needed.

Are these rotating disks or solid-state storage? Must be rotating if
you did an upgrade yourself.

So it might charge from my cellphone charger - that's good. We did used
to have a similar unit, the Epson 3000 (IIRC), but with the iPad the
need has gone away.
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 2012-11-21 23:21:01 -0800, David Taylor
said:

On 22/11/2012 06:58, Savageduck wrote:
[]
No! No! No! Not Twitter or FaceBook!
A curse on both their houses! ...and that FaceBook adoptee, Instagram. ;-)

I don't use Facebook myself - I don't quite see the point of it.
Twitter, on the other hand, I do find very useful as a lot of people in
motor racing are regular posters, including journalists and the drivers
themselves. There may be photographic users as well but I've never
looked for them.

Aah! Motor racing. Is that as a participant or a photographer?

Here is a historic F1 car from the 60's which I had the pleasure of
shooting. I idolized this car(or progressive series of cars) and its
original driver. I am sure you will recognize it and be well aware of
who was at the wheel.
http://db.tt/0KmqbCEO

--
Regards,

Savageduck