Be glad Apple doesn't make cameras

RichA wrote:
Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism

Rich is an effete snob who doesn't realize that Apple's computers are
designed in California. And judging by Apple's stock price they seem
to be doing quite well.

It's a good thing Rich isn't an engineer. Any product he designed
would be so heavy and so muddled with useless crap as to be unusable.

Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what

Oooo! "Think".

Take your own advice.

--
Ray Fischer

"RichA" wrote in message
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Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.

Not necessarily "European." This undoubtedly goes back to Steve Jobs's
marketing philosophy from the very beginning. When he and Steve Wozniak (who
did virtually all the actual engineering) designed the original Apple II, it
had only a 52-key keyboard and no shift key, because Jobs wanted to keep it
simple and non-threatening to ordinary, non-computer-savvy consumers.
Consequently when word processing software was developed for it it was more
or less crippled, unless users were satisfied to write in all caps. There
were hardware modifications to correct this, but until 1983 when the Apple
IIe came out with a much improved keyboard (I'm ignoring the Apple III
because it was a commercial flop), that was the situation.

And Jobs insisted on convection cooling only, because he thought ordinary
consumers would be put off by the sound of a fan -- too "machine-like," you
see. Many (probably most) buyers on their own added a Kensington system fan
made for the Apple II case. Also Jobs wanted only two expansion slots, but
Wozniak overruled him on that dopey idea and gave it seven.

ahem but apple pc's are made of metal ????


"RichA" wrote in message
...
Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.
Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what
is the small camera's main problem? Lack of up front functionality,
lack of buttons. Everything is buried in menus or simply lacking.
This is why despite the constant griping by some there ARE no small,
pro-level DSLRs.
Apple doesn't use buttons. Everything is in multi-layed menus
onscreen. If the could commit the keyboard to a screen, likely they
would. This is not the kind of hamstrung functionality people who
know better want in a camera. They want the functions available to
them with a one-button push, ideally.
Which is why pro cameras will stay large.

But you would have to send them back to the manufacturer every time the
battery needed replacement!

"corks" wrote in message
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ahem but apple pc's are made of metal ????


"RichA" wrote in message
...
Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.
Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what
is the small camera's main problem? Lack of up front functionality,
lack of buttons. Everything is buried in menus or simply lacking.
This is why despite the constant griping by some there ARE no small,
pro-level DSLRs.
Apple doesn't use buttons. Everything is in multi-layed menus
onscreen. If the could commit the keyboard to a screen, likely they
would. This is not the kind of hamstrung functionality people who
know better want in a camera. They want the functions available to
them with a one-button push, ideally.
Which is why pro cameras will stay large.

Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article
,
RichA wrote:

Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.
Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what
is the small camera's main problem? Lack of up front functionality,
lack of buttons. Everything is buried in menus or simply lacking.
This is why despite the constant griping by some there ARE no small,
pro-level DSLRs.
Apple doesn't use buttons. Everything is in multi-layed menus
onscreen. If the could commit the keyboard to a screen, likely they
would. This is not the kind of hamstrung functionality people who
know better want in a camera. They want the functions available to
them with a one-button push, ideally.
Which is why pro cameras will stay large.

Apple did make a digital camera. Apple's QuickTake was one of the first
consumer-level digital cameras on the market. Apple has never aspired to
replace the PC. Steve Jobs has said that in public several times. You
need to update yourself on history before you spout off with clearly
uninformed information.

That won't be happening, as Rich likes to post.... a lot.

Apple still "makes" a digital camera- they're embedded in all laptops
and iPhones.

--
John McWilliams

On 12/6/09 10:34 PM, in article
, "RichA"
wrote:

Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.
Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what
is the small camera's main problem? Lack of up front functionality,
lack of buttons. Everything is buried in menus or simply lacking.
This is why despite the constant griping by some there ARE no small,
pro-level DSLRs.
Apple doesn't use buttons. Everything is in multi-layed menus
onscreen. If the could commit the keyboard to a screen, likely they
would. This is not the kind of hamstrung functionality people who
know better want in a camera. They want the functions available to
them with a one-button push, ideally.
Which is why pro cameras will stay large.
You are just ****ed because you shorted the stock, and now you want to
bellyache in here. As Don Henley said: "Get over it!".

On 12/7/09 6:01 AM, in article ,
"Shawn Hirn" wrote:

In article
,
RichA wrote:

Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.
Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what
is the small camera's main problem? Lack of up front functionality,
lack of buttons. Everything is buried in menus or simply lacking.
This is why despite the constant griping by some there ARE no small,
pro-level DSLRs.
Apple doesn't use buttons. Everything is in multi-layed menus
onscreen. If the could commit the keyboard to a screen, likely they
would. This is not the kind of hamstrung functionality people who
know better want in a camera. They want the functions available to
them with a one-button push, ideally.
Which is why pro cameras will stay large.

Apple did make a digital camera. Apple's QuickTake was one of the first
consumer-level digital cameras on the market. Apple has never aspired to
replace the PC. Steve Jobs has said that in public several times. You
need to update yourself on history before you spout off with clearly
uninformed information.

Hell will freeze over before he stops his spouts.

In article , RichA wrote:
Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.
Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what
is the small camera's main problem? Lack of up front functionality,
lack of buttons. Everything is buried in menus or simply lacking.
This is why despite the constant griping by some there ARE no small,
pro-level DSLRs.
Apple doesn't use buttons. Everything is in multi-layed menus
onscreen. If the could commit the keyboard to a screen, likely they
would. This is not the kind of hamstrung functionality people who
know better want in a camera. They want the functions available to
them with a one-button push, ideally.
Which is why pro cameras will stay large.
Apple "DID" make digital cameras way back in 1994
They were a piece of ****.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_QuickTake

In article , John A. wrote:
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:05:54 -0500, Shawn Hirn
wrote:

In article ,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

RichA wrote:
Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism

Rich is an effete snob who doesn't realize that Apple's computers are
designed in California. And judging by Apple's stock price they seem
to be doing quite well.

Let's see. As of close this past Friday ...

APPL = 193.32
HP = 36.80
DELL = 13.46


Hmmm ...

Apple shareholders are laughing all the way to the bank.

The iPod & iPhone are to thank for that.
And the idiots who have to replace their devices every 6 months either because
they have to be a duchebag snob and have the latest model or Apple throws
something into the next device that can only be done on the new 6 month model.

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:34:37 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

Because they'd corner the market? Hardly. Their aspirations about
replacing PC's haven't and won't come to pass. It comes down to
design. Apple products are plagued by a soulless European minimalism
that to some appears attractive, but from a functional aspect, sucks.
Think about pro cameras then think about newer small cameras and what
is the small camera's main problem? Lack of up front functionality,
lack of buttons. Everything is buried in menus or simply lacking.
This is why despite the constant griping by some there ARE no small,
pro-level DSLRs.
Apple doesn't use buttons. Everything is in multi-layed menus
onscreen. If the could commit the keyboard to a screen, likely they
would. This is not the kind of hamstrung functionality people who
know better want in a camera. They want the functions available to
them with a one-button push, ideally.
Which is why pro cameras will stay large.

Hmmm.....

Let's see. RichA whines about Apple while Apple's stock is killer and
theyhave the highest market value in silicon valley. Steve Jobs has
been named CEO of the Decade by Fortune Magazine, and the entire world
tries to ape their products.

Dead on, Rich, no question. Maybe you should apply for a job there?