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10D still faster
I have tried the Nikon D70 again compared to the Canon
10D, and the AF is still much faster on the Canon. All settings were selected for one focus point so Its looks the Canon wins to me. Now I need to find a good 10D somewhere around here. Need input. |
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Thats nice, but since the D70 is nikons entry level dSLR, why would you
compare it to Canons mid-level dSLR? "fs" wrote in message news:cfBTc.253352$a24.214309@attbi_s03... I have tried the Nikon D70 again compared to the Canon 10D, and the AF is still much faster on the Canon. All settings were selected for one focus point so Its looks the Canon wins to me. Now I need to find a good 10D somewhere around here. Need input. |
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Good point, now I see that Canon might be coming out with the 20D 8.? MP at
a 1.6 size, and that tells me that the pixels are smaller to fit them in the same size senior so the Noise will be going up. I hope not. "skroob" wrote in message ... Thats nice, but since the D70 is nikons entry level dSLR, why would you compare it to Canons mid-level dSLR? "fs" wrote in message news:cfBTc.253352$a24.214309@attbi_s03... I have tried the Nikon D70 again compared to the Canon 10D, and the AF is still much faster on the Canon. All settings were selected for one focus point so Its looks the Canon wins to me. Now I need to find a good 10D somewhere around here. Need input. |
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same size SENSOR I mean.
"Sf" wrote in message news:wGBTc.312620$XM6.67688@attbi_s53... Good point, now I see that Canon might be coming out with the 20D 8.? MP at a 1.6 size, and that tells me that the pixels are smaller to fit them in the same size senior so the Noise will be going up. I hope not. "skroob" wrote in message ... Thats nice, but since the D70 is nikons entry level dSLR, why would you compare it to Canons mid-level dSLR? "fs" wrote in message news:cfBTc.253352$a24.214309@attbi_s03... I have tried the Nikon D70 again compared to the Canon 10D, and the AF is still much faster on the Canon. All settings were selected for one focus point so Its looks the Canon wins to me. Now I need to find a good 10D somewhere around here. Need input. |
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"Sf" wrote in message news:wGBTc.312620$XM6.67688@attbi_s53...
Good point, now I see that Canon might be coming out with the 20D 8.? MP at a 1.6 size, and that tells me that the pixels are smaller to fit them in the same size senior so the Noise will be going up. I hope not. Not necessarily, in the last two years (Moores Law) the transistors will have become only 1/2 as large as when the 6.3 MP CMOS chip was first built. These transistors obstruct around 20% of the photon collecting area on the original sensor will now be around 10% if the sensor stays at 6.3 MP. Secondly, new processes are available to enable making the storage cell able to collect more electrons than before, even utilizing the area under the cell control transistors to retain charge. At the same time, Canon (or any other competent engineering team) will have rung even more performance out of the amplification and A?D processing of the camera. The combination of smaller transistors and better amplifiers enables the shrink of the pixels that make up the sensor. So while the original 6.3 MP sensor had a storage capacity around 85,000e-, a new smaller cell in a newer silicon process may have a cell capacity around 100,000e- even though this cell is 10% linearly smaller than the cell it replaces. {{For the record, I have worked in the semiconductor industry for 25 years, but have no information about Canon or any other camera manufacturer, so treat this as an educated guess.}} |
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Good point.
I am hoping to get the 10D, and wishing the newer version, if it comes out, will not blow away the 10D. "Mitch Alsup" wrote in message om... "Sf" wrote in message news:wGBTc.312620$XM6.67688@attbi_s53... Good point, now I see that Canon might be coming out with the 20D 8.? MP at a 1.6 size, and that tells me that the pixels are smaller to fit them in the same size senior so the Noise will be going up. I hope not. Not necessarily, in the last two years (Moores Law) the transistors will have become only 1/2 as large as when the 6.3 MP CMOS chip was first built. These transistors obstruct around 20% of the photon collecting area on the original sensor will now be around 10% if the sensor stays at 6.3 MP. Secondly, new processes are available to enable making the storage cell able to collect more electrons than before, even utilizing the area under the cell control transistors to retain charge. At the same time, Canon (or any other competent engineering team) will have rung even more performance out of the amplification and A?D processing of the camera. The combination of smaller transistors and better amplifiers enables the shrink of the pixels that make up the sensor. So while the original 6.3 MP sensor had a storage capacity around 85,000e-, a new smaller cell in a newer silicon process may have a cell capacity around 100,000e- even though this cell is 10% linearly smaller than the cell it replaces. {{For the record, I have worked in the semiconductor industry for 25 years, but have no information about Canon or any other camera manufacturer, so treat this as an educated guess.}} |
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Good point.
I am hoping to get the 10D, and wishing the newer version, if it comes out, will not blow away the 10D. "Mitch Alsup" wrote in message om... "Sf" wrote in message news:wGBTc.312620$XM6.67688@attbi_s53... Good point, now I see that Canon might be coming out with the 20D 8.? MP at a 1.6 size, and that tells me that the pixels are smaller to fit them in the same size senior so the Noise will be going up. I hope not. Not necessarily, in the last two years (Moores Law) the transistors will have become only 1/2 as large as when the 6.3 MP CMOS chip was first built. These transistors obstruct around 20% of the photon collecting area on the original sensor will now be around 10% if the sensor stays at 6.3 MP. Secondly, new processes are available to enable making the storage cell able to collect more electrons than before, even utilizing the area under the cell control transistors to retain charge. At the same time, Canon (or any other competent engineering team) will have rung even more performance out of the amplification and A?D processing of the camera. The combination of smaller transistors and better amplifiers enables the shrink of the pixels that make up the sensor. So while the original 6.3 MP sensor had a storage capacity around 85,000e-, a new smaller cell in a newer silicon process may have a cell capacity around 100,000e- even though this cell is 10% linearly smaller than the cell it replaces. {{For the record, I have worked in the semiconductor industry for 25 years, but have no information about Canon or any other camera manufacturer, so treat this as an educated guess.}} |
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Good point.
I am hoping to get the 10D, and wishing the newer version, if it comes out, will not blow away the 10D. "Mitch Alsup" wrote in message om... "Sf" wrote in message news:wGBTc.312620$XM6.67688@attbi_s53... Good point, now I see that Canon might be coming out with the 20D 8.? MP at a 1.6 size, and that tells me that the pixels are smaller to fit them in the same size senior so the Noise will be going up. I hope not. Not necessarily, in the last two years (Moores Law) the transistors will have become only 1/2 as large as when the 6.3 MP CMOS chip was first built. These transistors obstruct around 20% of the photon collecting area on the original sensor will now be around 10% if the sensor stays at 6.3 MP. Secondly, new processes are available to enable making the storage cell able to collect more electrons than before, even utilizing the area under the cell control transistors to retain charge. At the same time, Canon (or any other competent engineering team) will have rung even more performance out of the amplification and A?D processing of the camera. The combination of smaller transistors and better amplifiers enables the shrink of the pixels that make up the sensor. So while the original 6.3 MP sensor had a storage capacity around 85,000e-, a new smaller cell in a newer silicon process may have a cell capacity around 100,000e- even though this cell is 10% linearly smaller than the cell it replaces. {{For the record, I have worked in the semiconductor industry for 25 years, but have no information about Canon or any other camera manufacturer, so treat this as an educated guess.}} |
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same size SENSOR I mean.
"Sf" wrote in message news:wGBTc.312620$XM6.67688@attbi_s53... Good point, now I see that Canon might be coming out with the 20D 8.? MP at a 1.6 size, and that tells me that the pixels are smaller to fit them in the same size senior so the Noise will be going up. I hope not. "skroob" wrote in message ... Thats nice, but since the D70 is nikons entry level dSLR, why would you compare it to Canons mid-level dSLR? "fs" wrote in message news:cfBTc.253352$a24.214309@attbi_s03... I have tried the Nikon D70 again compared to the Canon 10D, and the AF is still much faster on the Canon. All settings were selected for one focus point so Its looks the Canon wins to me. Now I need to find a good 10D somewhere around here. Need input. |
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skroob wrote:
Thats nice, but since the D70 is nikons entry level dSLR, why would you compare it to Canons mid-level dSLR? "fs" wrote in message news:cfBTc.253352$a24.214309@attbi_s03... I have tried the Nikon D70 again compared to the Canon 10D, and the AF is still much faster on the Canon. All settings were selected for one focus point so Its looks the Canon wins to me. Now I need to find a good 10D somewhere around here. Need input. Coz the prices are similar? Colin D. |
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