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Old April 16th 17, 03:02 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Russell D.
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Film scanning is dead.


film is dead.


Really wrong.


really right.

film use may not be zero, but it's close to it and getting closer every
day.

film sales have dramatically dropped off (kodak filed for bankruptcy,
polaroid is just a name), many films are no longer made (kodachrome
being the prime example), film cameras are no longer made (with very
rare exception and very, very few are sold) and very few places to
process film remain.

digital blows away film in every respect, although it can be downgraded
to look exactly like film for those who want that effect.
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Old April 16th 17, 03:19 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 04/15/2017 05:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On 15 Apr 2017 13:00:12 GMT, Sandman wrote:

In article , newshound
wrote:

I realise that this question doesn't have a simple answer, but it is
time I started scanning some of my old 35 mm slides and negatives
(mostly b&w).


I would really welcome some comments or experience on hardware in
the "keen amateur" price bracket.


Hey, that's my bracket as well!

I use the Epson Perfection V750 Pro (now replaced with the 850 Pro) which
comes with inserts for 135 and 120 film as well as large format and slides.

Image quality is superb.

https://epson.com/For-Work/Scanners/...on-Perfection-
V850-Pro-Photo-Scanner/p/B11B224201


I have used an Epson V700 for years. This is basically the same as a
V750 but with a few less bells and whistles. I have scanned hundreds
(thousands?) of old films and slides and found it has done a better
than excellent job. It came with extensive software which enables
major corrections to be made at the scanning level. Highly
recommended.




I use the Epson V600 it's less expensive and very high quality scans
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Old April 16th 17, 03:57 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:02:10 -0400, nospam
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In article , Russell D.
wrote:

The only thing that I can add to the mostly excellent advice already
given is to purchase VueScan. It is far superior to any of the software
that comes with scanners.


definitely.

the bundled scanner software is mostly garbage.


A good thing about the V700/750 (and probably others for all I know)
is that when you load a swag of 35mm film images (or slides) into the
negative holder for scanning, the scanner detects the 24 original
images and by scanning them individually (in parallel) presents them
as such rather than one gigantic scanner-bed sized image. While its
doing all this you have time to go and make a cup of coffee.
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Old April 16th 17, 04:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
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A good thing about the V700/750 (and probably others for all I know)
is that when you load a swag of 35mm film images (or slides) into the
negative holder for scanning, the scanner detects the 24 original
images and by scanning them individually (in parallel) presents them
as such rather than one gigantic scanner-bed sized image. While its
doing all this you have time to go and make a cup of coffee.


that can also be done with a coolscan, either a roll of negative film:
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xCsAAOSwB-1Yr8wQ/s-l1600.jpg

or a bunch of slides:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Coolscan_slid
es.jpg
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Old April 16th 17, 05:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , Russell D.
wrote:

The only thing that I can add to the mostly excellent advice already
given is to purchase VueScan. It is far superior to any of the software
that comes with scanners.


definitely.

the bundled scanner software is mostly garbage.


Possible trouble and annoyance aside, can you *really* get better
results from "superior" scanner software vs. the supplied app followed
by a good dose of Photoshop or GIMP?

Some years back when I was converting my slides, I evaluated VueScan and
some other after-market tool, but the result wasn't anything to shout
about. Just moved the effort and twiddling from post-processing to
scan-time, where (for me) it was far less convenient.

Isaac
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Old April 16th 17, 06:38 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
newshound wrote:

I realise that this question doesn't have a simple answer, but it is
time I started scanning some of my old 35 mm slides and negatives
(mostly b&w).

I would really welcome some comments or experience on hardware in the
"keen amateur" price bracket.

I know I can also "farm it out" but I'm interested in doing some myself
at least to get a feel for what results to inspect. Is there anything
which stands out towards the budget end in terms of value for money or
ease of use?


I have a Plustek Opticfilm for 35mm and have posted a sample link to my
blog somewhere*. Get the Vuescan scanner soft even if Silverfast is
included. Much faster and versatile.

* http://tinyurl.com/mrf3re3

I'm done with the slides now and plan to start on the BW negs the next
fall or so...
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Old April 16th 17, 12:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 4/16/2017 12:35 AM, nospam wrote:
In article ,
RichA wrote:

I realise that this question doesn't have a simple answer, but it is
time I started scanning some of my old 35 mm slides and negatives
(mostly b&w).

I would really welcome some comments or experience on hardware in the
"keen amateur" price bracket.

I know I can also "farm it out" but I'm interested in doing some myself
at least to get a feel for what results to inspect. Is there anything
which stands out towards the budget end in terms of value for money or
ease of use?


Get a film holder and use a DSLR or other 10+ megapixel camera.


another option, but not a very good one, particularly for negatives.

Film scanning is dead.


film is dead.

But not forgotten. Which is exactly why it is (sometimes) worth copying
before it decays.
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Old April 16th 17, 01:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2017-04-15 08:22, newshound wrote:
I realise that this question doesn't have a simple answer, but it is
time I started scanning some of my old 35 mm slides and negatives
(mostly b&w).

I would really welcome some comments or experience on hardware in the
"keen amateur" price bracket.

I know I can also "farm it out" but I'm interested in doing some myself
at least to get a feel for what results to inspect. Is there anything
which stands out towards the budget end in terms of value for money or
ease of use?


Amidst the other suggestions also think about archival quality scans for
the "best of the best". So a dedicated scanner is the best choice.

Also "pre filter" your film and slides to select those that are worthy
due to content or quality.

Make sure the scanner had ICE (scratch, dust correction) - thought that
won't work on Kodachrome (not sure about B&W).

A lot of Minolta 5400 scanners out there as well on the used market.

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recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
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Old April 16th 17, 01:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens wrote:

newshound:
I realise that this question doesn't have a simple answer, but
it is time I started scanning some of my old 35 mm slides and
negatives (mostly b&w).


I would really welcome some comments or experience on hardware
in the "keen amateur" price bracket.


Sandman:
Hey, that's my bracket as well!


I use the Epson Perfection V750 Pro (now replaced with the 850
Pro) which comes with inserts for 135 and 120 film as well as
large format and slides.


Image quality is superb.


https://epson.com/For-Work/Scanners/...on-Perfection-
V850-Pro-Photo-Scanner/p/B11B224201


I have used an Epson V700 for years. This is basically the same as a
V750 but with a few less bells and whistles. I have scanned hundreds
(thousands?) of old films and slides and found it has done a better
than excellent job. It came with extensive software which enables
major corrections to be made at the scanning level. Highly
recommended.


Yeah, outside of specialised lab scanners, I think these are the best in the
class really.

--
Sandman
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Old April 16th 17, 04:17 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , isw
wrote:

The only thing that I can add to the mostly excellent advice already
given is to purchase VueScan. It is far superior to any of the software
that comes with scanners.


definitely.

the bundled scanner software is mostly garbage.


Possible trouble and annoyance aside, can you *really* get better
results from "superior" scanner software vs. the supplied app followed
by a good dose of Photoshop


yes

or GIMP?


even easier to surpass.

Some years back when I was converting my slides, I evaluated VueScan and
some other after-market tool, but the result wasn't anything to shout
about. Just moved the effort and twiddling from post-processing to
scan-time, where (for me) it was far less convenient.


some things are best done at scan time, such as vuescan's equivalent of
digital ice.
 




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