D80 -- memory card question..

hi,

I just purchased a memory card, it's a 2GB Toshiba (in list of
approved brands for Nikon D80 in manual) tested, it works fine,
only weird thing is in display where it usu. says how many photos you
can still take instead of saying "900" or something like that it says
"1.0" (card is 2GB..) why display is different with this card and
how can I tell how many photos I can still take (I know this
depends on quality, dimensions setting, but still, why does it say
"1.0" instead of how many photos..)

thank you very much...

Do you have a file type/size setting that would allow the card to hold
more than 999 photos?

The display can only show 3 digits, so if your card has space for more
than 999 photos then the display will show the number in thousands.



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"maya" wrote in message
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: hi,
:
: I just purchased a memory card, it's a 2GB Toshiba (in list of
: approved brands for Nikon D80 in manual) tested, it works fine,
: only weird thing is in display where it usu. says how many photos
you
: can still take instead of saying "900" or something like that it
says
: "1.0" (card is 2GB..) why display is different with this card and
: how can I tell how many photos I can still take (I know this
: depends on quality, dimensions setting, but still, why does it say
: "1.0" instead of how many photos..)
:
: thank you very much...
:

You can test this by changing the quality of image to something which
creates a larger files size. Joan is correct the 1.0 means over 1000
but less than 1,100, the larger file size setting should drop the
number down to display in 3 digits.

On 2/24/2007 7:01 AM, maya wrote:
hi,

I just purchased a memory card, it's a 2GB Toshiba (in list of
approved brands for Nikon D80 in manual) tested, it works fine,
only weird thing is in display where it usu. says how many photos you
can still take instead of saying "900" or something like that it says
"1.0" (card is 2GB..) why display is different with this card and
how can I tell how many photos I can still take (I know this
depends on quality, dimensions setting, but still, why does it say
"1.0" instead of how many photos..)

thank you very much...

My Nikon D80 displays a little "K" to the right of the 1.0 and
slightly above the 1.0 to indicate that you can take 1K (i.e. 1,000)
photos. There is no way for the camera to display more decimal places,
so you can assume there are between 1000 and 1099 photos left. Once
the number of photos left falls under 1000, it will display the
estimated number of photos, such as, for example, 962.

--
Paige Miller


It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack

On 2/24/2007 12:14 PM, THO wrote:
In article ,
Paige Miller wrote:
My Nikon D80 displays a little "K" to the right of the 1.0 and
slightly above the 1.0 to indicate that you can take 1K (i.e. 1,000)
photos. There is no way for the camera to display more decimal places,
so you can assume there are between 1000 and 1099 photos left. Once
the number of photos left falls under 1000, it will display the
estimated number of photos, such as, for example, 962.

I wonder why they don't at a "+" after the 1K -- 1K+ to accurately
represent that there is more than 1,000 photos remaining.

This makes no sense. The "K" indicates there are 1000 or more (up to
1099) photos remaining. The "+" that you suggest adds no additional
information.

--
Paige Miller


It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack

On 24/02/2007 12:14 PM, THO wrote:
In article ,
Paige Miller wrote:
My Nikon D80 displays a little "K" to the right of the 1.0 and
slightly above the 1.0 to indicate that you can take 1K (i.e. 1,000)
photos. There is no way for the camera to display more decimal places,
so you can assume there are between 1000 and 1099 photos left. Once
the number of photos left falls under 1000, it will display the
estimated number of photos, such as, for example, 962.

I wonder why they don't at a "+" after the 1K -- 1K+ to accurately
represent that there is more than 1,000 photos remaining.

If you have 1,000 or more shots remaining, does it really matter if it's
1,001 or 1,099? In any case, it's only an approximation; there's no way
the camera can know exactly how many shots will fit in almost all cases.

On 2/24/2007 3:50 PM, THO wrote:
In article ,
Paige Miller wrote:

On 2/24/2007 12:14 PM, THO wrote:
In article ,
Paige Miller wrote:
My Nikon D80 displays a little "K" to the right of the 1.0 and
slightly above the 1.0 to indicate that you can take 1K (i.e. 1,000)
photos. There is no way for the camera to display more decimal places,
so you can assume there are between 1000 and 1099 photos left. Once
the number of photos left falls under 1000, it will display the
estimated number of photos, such as, for example, 962.
I wonder why they don't at a "+" after the 1K -- 1K+ to accurately
represent that there is more than 1,000 photos remaining.
This makes no sense. The "K" indicates there are 1000 or more (up to
1099) photos remaining. The "+" that you suggest adds no additional
information.

K=1,000
1K=1,000
2K=2,000
3K=3,000

In this care ...

1K= 1,000 (not 1,000 to 1,999)
1K+= more than 1K

No, wrong

1.0K =1,000 to 1,099 pics
1.1K =1,100 to 1,199 pics
....
1.9K =1,900 to 1,999 pics
2.0K =2,000 to 2,099 pics
2.1K =2,100 to 2,199 pics

etc

The plus sign tells you nothing

If your camera displayed 1, would that mean you had between 1 and 999
shots remaining?

It means you have 1 picture, that's the way the Nikon D80 works. If
there's no "K", then that's the estimated number of pictures. If
there's a "K", there's a range. The "+" would tell you nothing

--
Paige Miller


It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack

On 2/25/2007 10:26 AM, THO wrote:
In article ,
Paige Miller wrote:
1.0K =1,000 to 1,099 pics
1.1K =1,100 to 1,199 pics
...
1.9K =1,900 to 1,999 pics
2.0K =2,000 to 2,099 pics
2.1K =2,100 to 2,199 pics

Paige, you skipped school on the day your 4th grade teacher taught the
metric system, didn't you?

Just because Nikon uses that convention doesn't make it right. Let's
take the "K" out of the equation:

1,000=1,000
1,000 does not equal 1,000 to 1,099
1,100=1,100
1,100 does not equal 1,100 to 1,199

Can't you understand the idea of limited space forces Nikon to use
approximations? It's not the metric system that Nikon is using, its
the Nikon D80 abbreviations that it is using. That's why 1.0K on a
Nikon D80 indicates there is space on the SD card for between 1000 and
1099 shots available. How do I know? Because the camera shows 1.0K, I
take 30 or 40 shots and then magically, the camera no longer reads
1.0K -- the camera tells me there are 999 shots left.

But don't take my word for it. Look at the manual for the D80
http://www.nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/...80_noprint.pdf
and scroll down to page 17 of the .pdf (which oddly is page 5 of the
manual as many of the early pages have Roman numerals)

--
Paige Miller


It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack

On 2/25/2007 2:17 PM, THO wrote:

Here's what you're not getting ---

999 = 3 characters
1K=2 characters
1K+=3 characters (i.e. it FITS into Nikon's 3 character display and
would allow them to use an abbreviation that is CORRECT instead of
written in Nikon-speak)

Yeah but that's not what Nikon did, and your system with the "+" sign
conveys no additional information over and above what Nikon did. By
the way, the Nikon D80 does not us 1K as you imply above. It uses
1.0K, conveying more information than your 1K+. Your 1K+ indicates
1000-1999 photos, it cannot indicate finer gradations, whereas Nikon
can indicate via 1.2K that there are only 1200-1299 photos.

Your statement about CORRECT is ridiculous, Nikon wasn't trying to
emulate the metric system, they were trying to convey as much
information as possible and they did so with better effectiveness than
using 1K+.

--
Paige Miller


It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack

On 25 Feb, 19:17, THO wrote:
In article ,
Paige Miller wrote:





On 2/25/2007 10:26 AM, THO wrote:
In article ,
Paige Miller wrote:
1.0K =1,000 to 1,099 pics
1.1K =1,100 to 1,199 pics
...
1.9K =1,900 to 1,999 pics
2.0K =2,000 to 2,099 pics
2.1K =2,100 to 2,199 pics

Paige, you skipped school on the day your 4th grade teacher taught the
metric system, didn't you?

Just because Nikon uses that convention doesn't make it right. Let's
take the "K" out of the equation:

1,000=1,000
1,000 does not equal 1,000 to 1,099
1,100=1,100
1,100 does not equal 1,100 to 1,199

Can't you understand the idea of limited space forces Nikon to use
approximations? It's not the metric system that Nikon is using, its

Sigh Here you go -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilo

Most people first learn about this when they learn about the metric
system.

Here's what you're not getting ---

999 = 3 characters
1K=2 characters
1K+=3 characters (i.e. it FITS into Nikon's 3 character display and
would allow them to use an abbreviation that is CORRECT instead of
written in Nikon-speak)

No no no no no. Paige is trying to explain, to you, what Nikon display
on the D80 where there are more than 999 photos remaining with the
current size settings. And you know what, Paige is absolutely correct.
Never mind whether Nikon doesn't use the correct metric
respresentation of K or not, this is what the camera shows.

Capiche?

Doc