did anyone try this: cheap point-n-shoot on the back of a large format beast?

Leonard Evens wrote in
:

When you start talking about light from distant
galaxies, I think it gets more complicated than just using geometric
optics.

It is the other way around. It is when looking at small things
that geometric optics fails. Even a gravitational lens follows
the laws of geometrical optics - in curved space time

Maybe even stuff that hasn't happened yet :-)

Well, when things have happened can be pretty complicated because of
relativity theory. But who knows?

There is a stringent definition of cause and effect in relativity theory.
You can talk about things that have not happened yet. Different
observers cannot in general agree upon when things happen. But if
I drop a crystal vase I can say that it has not hit the floor yet,
and all observers that see me dropping the vase will say the same.
Later, when the vase is spread all over the floor in small pieces,
everyone that sees the mess knows that it is after it has hit the
floor. But they can all see that I have not cleaned up the mess,
that has not happened yet. Of course, the observers will have a totally
different view on how long time the vase took to fall to the floor
and we can never agree upon when it happened; at least not if we
insist on using our own clocks. But if everyone used my clock and
everything happened where I am, then we could all agree upon the
order and timing of all events. But ... that is not the way it is


/Roland

chibitul wrote in news:chibitul-
:

Did anyone try to use a large format camera to get an image (with all
the advantages of large format cameras: tilt, shift, etc) and then use
a
small digicam instead of film to snap the picture? I imagine if you
make
some sort of fixture to attach the digicam to the back of the large
format camera, and focus on the glass plate, you should be able to snap
*that* image. I never used a large format camera and I do not intend to
venture into this field unless I can do it digitally. I am not into
high
resolution stuff, I read some of Ansel Adams books and I am impressed
with what you can do with large format when you can tilt/shift the lens
and the negative as you want. Just wondering if I can "piggy-back" a
cheap point-n-shoot on the back of a large format beast?



Of course you can. Several here have given you reasons why it is
not so interesting. I will give you two more.

1. Restitution (e.g. fixing non parallel lines in architecture)
you can do better in your photo editor.

2. The small camera already has a large depth of field, so tilting
of the lens is not neccessary to get all parts in focus.


/Roland

chibitul wrote in news:chibitul-
:

Did anyone try to use a large format camera to get an image (with all
the advantages of large format cameras: tilt, shift, etc) and then use
a
small digicam instead of film to snap the picture? I imagine if you
make
some sort of fixture to attach the digicam to the back of the large
format camera, and focus on the glass plate, you should be able to snap
*that* image. I never used a large format camera and I do not intend to
venture into this field unless I can do it digitally. I am not into
high
resolution stuff, I read some of Ansel Adams books and I am impressed
with what you can do with large format when you can tilt/shift the lens
and the negative as you want. Just wondering if I can "piggy-back" a
cheap point-n-shoot on the back of a large format beast?



Of course you can. Several here have given you reasons why it is
not so interesting. I will give you two more.

1. Restitution (e.g. fixing non parallel lines in architecture)
you can do better in your photo editor.

2. The small camera already has a large depth of field, so tilting
of the lens is not neccessary to get all parts in focus.


/Roland

Roland Karlsson wrote:

1. Restitution (e.g. fixing non parallel lines in architecture)
you can do better in your photo editor.

Not without significant quality loss. Shift lenses are not useless on
smaller cameras; indeed, I wish more of them were made.

--
Jeremy |

Roland Karlsson wrote:

1. Restitution (e.g. fixing non parallel lines in architecture)
you can do better in your photo editor.

Not without significant quality loss. Shift lenses are not useless on
smaller cameras; indeed, I wish more of them were made.

--
Jeremy |

In article ,
Leonard Evens wrote:

Ultimately most physicist believe there
will be a final theory which explains everything, perhaps some variant
of string theory. When you start talking about light from distant
galaxies, I think it gets more complicated than just using geometric optics.


Maybe even stuff that hasn't happened yet :-)

Well, when things have happened can be pretty complicated because of
relativity theory. But who knows?

I like string theory, something nags at me I can't quite put into words
though.
--
To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the
measure of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the
measure of skill. Sun Tzu

In article ,
Leonard Evens wrote:

Ultimately most physicist believe there
will be a final theory which explains everything, perhaps some variant
of string theory. When you start talking about light from distant
galaxies, I think it gets more complicated than just using geometric optics.


Maybe even stuff that hasn't happened yet :-)

Well, when things have happened can be pretty complicated because of
relativity theory. But who knows?

I like string theory, something nags at me I can't quite put into words
though.
--
To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the
measure of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the
measure of skill. Sun Tzu

Jeremy Nixon wrote in news:10h2jjjjft4qh67
@corp.supernews.com:

1. Restitution (e.g. fixing non parallel lines in architecture)
you can do better in your photo editor.

Not without significant quality loss.

Not all that significant IMHO. Shifting and tilting lenses also
introduces problems. Lenses are not optimised to be used thus.

Shift lenses are not useless on
smaller cameras; indeed, I wish more of them were made.

It is a matter of opinion of course. Personally I find it a
a waste in complexity and cost to use on a small camera.
Shift and tilt lenses are bigger and has less resolution
as they must have a larger image circle and also lots of
mechanics. Not optimal in any way.

Sounds cost effective, and even quality effective, to do
it in software.

But if you want a $200 200 gram camera body with a
$1000 500 gram shift and tilt lens, thats your choice


/Roland

Jeremy Nixon wrote in news:10h2jjjjft4qh67
@corp.supernews.com:

1. Restitution (e.g. fixing non parallel lines in architecture)
you can do better in your photo editor.

Not without significant quality loss.

Not all that significant IMHO. Shifting and tilting lenses also
introduces problems. Lenses are not optimised to be used thus.

Shift lenses are not useless on
smaller cameras; indeed, I wish more of them were made.

It is a matter of opinion of course. Personally I find it a
a waste in complexity and cost to use on a small camera.
Shift and tilt lenses are bigger and has less resolution
as they must have a larger image circle and also lots of
mechanics. Not optimal in any way.

Sounds cost effective, and even quality effective, to do
it in software.

But if you want a $200 200 gram camera body with a
$1000 500 gram shift and tilt lens, thats your choice


/Roland

Roland Karlsson wrote:

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/Roland