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Old May 21st 21, 04:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
John Doe[_3_]
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Default OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)

Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for
FLYING, please feel free to refer me.

My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing
System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being
user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the
ground, so I want to add an LED.

Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above
the ground.

Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56° with forward to
backward vision at 71°. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about
71°.

Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that
particular item.

Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin
is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I
guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an
LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later).

Thanks.
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Old May 21st 21, 04:43 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alan Browne[_2_]
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Default OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)

On 2021-05-21 11:34, John Doe wrote:
Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for
FLYING, please feel free to refer me.

My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing
System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being
user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the
ground, so I want to add an LED.

Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above
the ground.

Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56° with forward to
backward vision at 71°. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about
71°.

Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that
particular item.

Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin
is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I
guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an
LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later).


There are drone forums that have such discussions such as MavicPilots.

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Old May 21st 21, 06:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_8_]
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Default OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)

On May 21, 2021 at 8:34:35 AM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote:

Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for
FLYING, please feel free to refer me.

My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing
System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being
user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the
ground, so I want to add an LED.


Since you are talking about the DJI Mini 2 the first thing you need to
consider is the addition of almost anything will push its weight over the 249g
limit for FAA registration, or other regulation limitations in other
countries.

The camera on the Mini 2 with its small sensor has terrible low light
performance, for that you would be better off with one of the 1" sensor drones
such as the Mavic 2Pro, the Air 2S, or the Autel Evo II Pro.

The DJI Air 2, & Air 2S both have a bottom/downward facing LED light to aid in
low light landing. Other drones have different add-on lighting systems for
camera assistance, and/or area lighting. Most of those are commercial, or
enterprise drones such as the DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise which has a starting
price over $6,000.

Then you are still faced with legal, and FAA regulations regarding nighttime
flight and daylight waivers. Then you are still required to add strobe
lighting such as the LumeCube, or FireHouse which must be visible up to 3
nautical miles.

Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above
the ground.

Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56° with forward to
backward vision at 71°. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about
71°.

Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that
particular item.


The only add-on LED system I know of is the one offered by PGYTech for the Air
2/Air 2S as part of a leg extension kit, and that is a pointless waste of
money.

https://www.pgytech.com/products/mavic-air-2-landing-gear-extensions-led-headlamp-set

Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin
is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I
guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an
LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later).


With the DJI Mini 2 you are beating a dead horse. If you want, or need to
pursue low light or night time drone photography up grade to a more capable
drone, study and follow the FAA , or other jurisdiction rules/regulations, and
get yourself FAA Part 107 certified with the appropriate daylight waivers.

--
Regards,
Savageduck


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Old May 22nd 21, 04:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,free.spam
John Doe[_3_]
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Default OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)

I don't violate regulations. Nobody needs a sermon on violating
regulations.

I know how much my drone weighs. The claim adding an LED will make it
weigh more than the registration limit is nonsense.

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On May 21, 2021 at 8:34:35 AM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote:

Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for
FLYING, please feel free to refer me.

My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing
System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being
user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the
ground, so I want to add an LED.


Since you are talking about the DJI Mini 2 the first thing you need to
consider is the addition of almost anything will push its weight over the 249g
limit for FAA registration, or other regulation limitations in other
countries.

The camera on the Mini 2 with its small sensor has terrible low light
performance, for that you would be better off with one of the 1" sensor drones
such as the Mavic 2Pro, the Air 2S, or the Autel Evo II Pro.

The DJI Air 2, & Air 2S both have a bottom/downward facing LED light to aid in
low light landing. Other drones have different add-on lighting systems for
camera assistance, and/or area lighting. Most of those are commercial, or
enterprise drones such as the DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise which has a starting
price over $6,000.

Then you are still faced with legal, and FAA regulations regarding nighttime
flight and daylight waivers. Then you are still required to add strobe
lighting such as the LumeCube, or FireHouse which must be visible up to 3
nautical miles.

Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above
the ground.

Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56¶ø with forward to
backward vision at 71¶ø. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about
71¶ø.

Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that
particular item.


The only add-on LED system I know of is the one offered by PGYTech for the Air
2/Air 2S as part of a leg extension kit, and that is a pointless waste of
money.

https://www.pgytech.com/products/mavic-air-2-landing-gear-extensions-led-headlamp-set

Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin
is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I
guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an
LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later).


With the DJI Mini 2 you are beating a dead horse. If you want, or need to
pursue low light or night time drone photography up grade to a more capable
drone, study and follow the FAA , or other jurisdiction rules/regulations, and
get yourself FAA Part 107 certified with the appropriate daylight waivers.

--
Regards,
Savageduck





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Old May 22nd 21, 05:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_8_]
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On May 21, 2021 at 8:25:33 PM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote:

I don't violate regulations.


That's good, but your stated intent indicates you have something otherwise in
mind.

Nobody needs a sermon on violating regulations.


Perhaps you just needed a little reminder.

I know how much my drone weighs.


I should hope so.

The claim adding an LED will make it weigh more than the registration limit
is nonsense.


Who knows what adding anything to the Mini 2 will do regarding extra weight
when pushing that 249g limit. However, you will still have that small sensor
with marginal lowlight performance.

....but you know what you want to do with your Mini, so go ahead and modify to
your heart's content.

--
Regards,
Savageduck


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Old May 22nd 21, 06:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,free.spam
John Doe[_3_]
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Clueless twit...

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On May 21, 2021 at 8:25:33 PM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote:

I don't violate regulations.


That's good, but your stated intent indicates you have something otherwise in
mind.

Nobody needs a sermon on violating regulations.


Perhaps you just needed a little reminder.

I know how much my drone weighs.


I should hope so.

The claim adding an LED will make it weigh more than the registration limit
is nonsense.


Who knows what adding anything to the Mini 2 will do regarding extra weight
when pushing that 249g limit. However, you will still have that small sensor
with marginal lowlight performance.

...but you know what you want to do with your Mini, so go ahead and modify to
your heart's content.

--
Regards,
Savageduck





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Old May 22nd 21, 11:46 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_8_]
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Default OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)

On May 21, 2021 at 10:03:47 PM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote:

Clueless twit...


Self awareness is a good trait for you.

....and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished.

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Savageduck


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Old May 22nd 21, 02:37 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Am 22.05.2021 um 12:46 schrieb Savageduck:
...and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished.


The golden rule: never ever help people unless you are explicitly asked
for it.
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Old May 22nd 21, 03:42 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_8_]
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On May 22, 2021 at 6:37:44 AM PDT, "Alfred Molon"
wrote:

Am 22.05.2021 um 12:46 schrieb Savageduck:
...and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished.


The golden rule: never ever help people unless you are explicitly asked
for it.


With that particular individual I probably should have known better.

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Old May 23rd 21, 09:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,free.spam
John Doe[_3_]
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Default OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)

My post had nothing to do with FAA regulations. A sermon on FAA
regulations is netcop wannabe blather. I'm very interested in the law, a
regular listener to the United States Supreme Court, not at all interested
in discussing the law with some clueless dweeb.

Some people are assholes. When they see a question they don't know the
answer to, they bash the poster for asking the question. It's an ego
problem...

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Am 22.05.2021 um 12:46 schrieb Savageduck:
...and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished.


The golden rule: never ever help people unless you are explicitly asked
for it.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
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