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Bluefire Police film?
[Using r.p.e.35mm for its intended purpose--discussions of 35mm FILM
cameras] So has anyone used this Bluefire "Police" film? See http://www.frugalphotographer.com/catBluefire.htm Is this basically the same as the Gigabit stuff? Is it any good? Is it worth messing with? -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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Bluefire Police film?
In rec.photo.equipment.35mm David Nebenzahl wrote:
[Using r.p.e.35mm for its intended purpose--discussions of 35mm FILM cameras] So has anyone used this Bluefire "Police" film? See http://www.frugalphotographer.com/catBluefire.htm Is this basically the same as the Gigabit stuff? Is it any good? Is it worth messing with? I haven't tried that one, but as far as I know all such things are high speed source document microfilms plus some variation on POTA developer. If you can find someone to sell you a modest quantity of Agfa Copex or Kodak Imagelink films in 35mm double perf, you could do it a lot cheaper. Most microfilm sellers seem to want to sell film by the case, and I'm not aware of anyone who will currently sell me a single 100 foot roll. It is very cheap by the case, and I wish B&H or someone would sell a single 100 foot roll for double their cost, but they don't. 16mm film and unperforated 35 is easier to find in small quantities, but the perforated stuff that fits our cameras seems to be the least common of the standard formats for microfilming. Peter. -- |
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Bluefire Police film?
David Nebenzahl wrote:
[Using r.p.e.35mm for its intended purpose--discussions of 35mm FILM cameras] Film equipment here of the 35 mm sort is fine, but discussions are not limited to film bodies. [rec.photo.darkroom removed] -- john mcwilliams |
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Bluefire Police film?
On 10/27/2009 10:39 PM John McWilliams spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote: [Using r.p.e.35mm for its intended purpose--discussions of 35mm FILM cameras] Film equipment here of the 35 mm sort is fine, but discussions are not limited to film bodies. They aren't, obviously, as evidenced by the flood of posts about the "fab" this and the "fab" that digital camera. But they should be. -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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Bluefire Police film?
David Nebenzahl wrote:
[Using r.p.e.35mm for its intended purpose--discussions of 35mm FILM cameras] So has anyone used this Bluefire "Police" film? See http://www.frugalphotographer.com/catBluefire.htm Is this basically the same as the Gigabit stuff? Is it any good? Is it worth messing with? It is the same as Gigabit - Agfa Copex Rapid. There is a recommended developer, a so-called 'variation' on the Holden & Weichert formula of 35 years ago. You can make that yourself (I did) and if you make the active ingredient part with glycol/glycerol/brake fluid (yes!) it will keep fine in the fridge. Just make sure you remember how much of what goes with that to get the final dilution. The numbers are weird. As to what to do with it depends if you're a 'grainless' friek. There is none. But it can still be hard to get pictorial results. The phenidone can cause banding of areas of almost constant tone, such as skies. Damned irritating. I bought a can of 35mm, and 16mm for the Minoltas/Kiev miniature cameras and still have a bunch. There are those who swear by C41 developer. Haven't been down that road yet but am considering Dignan's split C41 formula for just this film. Got the makin's just haven't done it yet. Lots of cameras and film - so little time. :-) Good luck you will get lots of experience with occult developer formulae. Murray |
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Bluefire Police film?
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Murray wrote: As to what to do with it depends if you're a 'grainless' friek. There is none. But it can still be hard to get pictorial results. The phenidone can cause banding of areas of almost constant tone, such as skies. Damned irritating. I wonder whether, at this late date, it would be possible to persuade Kodak to divulge the formula for Technidol. -- Thor Lancelot Simon "Even experienced UNIX users occasionally enter rm *.* at the UNIX prompt only to realize too late that they have removed the wrong segment of the directory structure." - Microsoft WSS whitepaper |
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Bluefire Police film?
On 10/30/2009 8:17 AM Thor Lancelot Simon spake thus:
In article , Murray wrote: As to what to do with it depends if you're a 'grainless' friek. There is none. But it can still be hard to get pictorial results. The phenidone can cause banding of areas of almost constant tone, such as skies. Damned irritating. I wonder whether, at this late date, it would be possible to persuade Kodak to divulge the formula for Technidol. Hmm; Richard M? Any thoughts? -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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Bluefire Police film?
On 10/30/2009 8:17 AM Thor Lancelot Simon spake thus:
I wonder whether, at this late date, it would be possible to persuade Kodak to divulge the formula for Technidol. Sorry, wrong newsgroup; that should be Richard *K*. (M is a guru from another NG.) -- Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom? - harvested from Usenet |
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Bluefire Police film?
"Thor Lancelot Simon" wrote
I wonder whether, at this late date, it would be possible to persuade Kodak to divulge the formula for Technidol. That would be lovely. Whatever it is, it isn't POTA, more like H&W Control. The ingredients: 1) Diethylene Glycol: diluent 2) Hydroquinone: developing agent 3) Diethanolamine sulfur dioxide complex: alkali/activator? Carbonate substitute? Kodak loves the stuff. 4) Tris (1-methylethyl) naphthalene sulfonic acid sodium salt: wetting agent/developing agent(?) 5) 1-Phenyl-4, 4-dimethyl-3-pyrazolidinone: AKA Dimezone, phenidone-like developing agent I am taking a guess at the reasons for the DEA-SO2 and naptha-sulfonic salt. Anyone with any more clues? -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/da-main.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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In article ,
Nicholas O. Lindan wrote: 3) Diethanolamine sulfur dioxide complex: alkali/activator? Carbonate substitute? Kodak loves the stuff. 4) Tris (1-methylethyl) naphthalene sulfonic acid sodium salt: wetting agent/developing agent(?) I wonder if this last one is even available any more. Eastman Chemical used to make a lot of stuff strictly for in-house use... Thor -- Thor Lancelot Simon "Even experienced UNIX users occasionally enter rm *.* at the UNIX prompt only to realize too late that they have removed the wrong segment of the directory structure." - Microsoft WSS whitepaper |
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