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Old November 16th 07, 06:35 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:42:22 -0500, "Mark B."
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"John Navas" wrote in message
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It comes from childish mine-is-better bragging by DSLR advocates who
feel the need to feed their egos by putting down non-DSLRs and those who
use them at every opportunity, like wearing a (fake) Rolex to be more
cool.


But the truth is this thread - and others like it - are typically started by
P&S users, actually one particular P&S user who seems obsessed with
criticizing DSLR users and baiting them into a pointless debate.


My own take is that the majority of the bashing and bragging is by DSLR
advocates, not so much entire threads as incessant response putdowns of
non-DSLRs. You're not seeing that?

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Old November 16th 07, 06:36 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:47:06 -0800, SMS ???• ?
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Mark B. wrote:

But the truth is this thread - and others like it - are typically started by
P&S users, actually one particular P&S user who seems obsessed with
criticizing DSLR users and baiting them into a pointless debate.


It's only _one_ person that believes it (and even he doesn't really
believe it). By responding, instead of kill-filing, people are
encouraging him to keep trolling.


Well put, Mr Pot. LOL

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Old November 16th 07, 06:58 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:45:03 -0800 (PST), wrote
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On Nov 16, 7:46 am, John Navas wrote:


Those links have worked every time I've tried them.


And how *exactly* does that prove they were working when I checked?
And how *exactly* does that prove they were working when Pete D had
the same problem:


I didn't say that. I said it's quite likely not what you claimed
(crappy hosting), and noted your lack of any supporting evidence. You
didn't know what the problem was, making your accusation pretty silly.

Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at
www.douglasjames.com.au.

Oh look, "evidence". Can you see that it wasn't just me?


One other person. Not "a *number* of people" as you claimed.
And not evidence of a hosting problem. If you check, you'll see that
Firefox message is actually a DNS problem, not a hosting problem, which
can be caused by lots of different things, some local, some at various
remote levels.

I think an ISP or Internet transit problem or even just cockpit error
are as likely as a server problem in the complete absence of any
evidence. Instead of adding evidence, you added an insult.


My 'insult' was "Sheesh."


Your actual insult was: "Using a reliable Internet connection are you?
Maybe you should ask for your money back. "

Your reply was "Insults are childish and
inappropriate at best, and just make you look
foolish when you're so far off the mark".


You were far off the mark, as I've shown in my replies, and you're made
yourself look foolish (in my opinion at least).

Go ask an *unbiased
observer* which one is the most insulting...


Let me know if and when you find one.
They certainly don't hang out here.

Hint - would you be
insulted if I called you a childish fool..?


Hint: The real issue is your behavior.

instead done some checking, you might have found:

The use of "done some checking" is rather funny, given that *you*
didn't. Then you post a quote that shows absolutely ****-all about
what was happening when Pete and I had a problem, along with some
domain provider advertising spiel that has sweet FA to do with it.

Actually, that line:
Internap and Dotster are both "professional" operations, and
the multiple IP addresses are a load-balancing server farm

..makes you sound so much like Doug, you could be a pigeon pair.


Now you make yourself look clueless.

"Sheesh" upsets you so? A little fragile, by chance?


I'm not upset. I actually chuckle and shake my head.
And merely remarking on your attitude and style.

(O: And just
who was off the mark again?


You were, and still are, as I've shown in my replies.

But, anyway, if it floats your boat to decide there wasn't a problem
because:
- *you* didn't see it


That's not what I said. I said:
* It wasn't the problem you claimed.
* Your insults were childish and inappropriate.

- you worship Doug
- you worship Internap and Dotster


Are you really this immature?

- you doubt the word of at least 2 others


I actually doubt your unfounded insult,
which I've now shown to be wrong.

.. then your position and approach to life is quite clear. Do carry
on!


I will.

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Old November 16th 07, 07:05 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:07:03 -0800 (PST), wrote
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On Nov 16, 9:00 pm, Douglas wrote:
Ha, ha ha. ROTFL.
The DNS you are hooked into and Pete's ISP leaches off is notourious

Is that meant to be "notorious", Mr Illiterate? Nice grammar, too.


http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm
No such site.


But as usual, you are right, Doug (and John N). Everyone else is just
imagining it.


2 and only 2 people had DNS problems. Everyone else did not.

Some folks like to keep their head in their sand. They just don't
want to get it.

Carry on ignoring reality, Doug.


That only makes you look foolish.

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Old November 16th 07, 07:56 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:14:39 -0800 (PST), wrote
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On Nov 16, 6:55 am, Douglas wrote:
Hullo Charlie... Pop out and take a photo of an incandecent lamp

Do you mean "incandescent", oh illiterate one?


Criticizing spelling errors isn't terribly meaningful or constructive,
and I rather liked the pun, even if accidental. Lighten up!

Once again, Mr talentless, it's the area *around* the lamp that is
blown to hell, and a *simple* HDR technique would have tidied that
area up - if you did stitching, why on earth didn't you take different
exposures for the *real* problem?


Perhaps because he didn't see it as a "real" problem. Images are just a
rough approximation of reality, and I personally rather like the glare
effect around the incandescent lights -- HDR might well have looked
artificial, a common problem with HDR in my opinion -- I don't see this
as needing HDR.

Do you *really* need an example??? If anyone else needs one, say so,
and I'll do it. I might even see if I can do the same shot, if that
room is still available for viewing on the Diamantina..


If HDR works better for you, then that's what you should use.
"Different strokes for different folks."

(I've deleted personal attacks, which only serve to make your position
less persuasive.)

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Old November 16th 07, 08:01 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:51:01 +1100, The Vintage Monk
wrote in
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Douglas wrote:


Oh Monk(ey)...
How could I stay away, knowing what you were doing to yourself in my
absence?


Oh ****wit, In your absence I was making a list of the names you use. Up
to 1756 now.

Just collecting evidence monk.

Oh no I am so scared, I spoke to my mate at the courthouse today and you
addressing me as Monkey gives me right to call you a ****wit, well she
used a word starting with C but after some laughter we settled with ****wit


Could you all please take this to kind of thing to alt.insults-gangbang?
[follow-up set] When posting here, please have at least a tiny bit of
relevant content to relieve the monotony of the insults. Thanks!

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Old November 16th 07, 08:03 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:26:34 +1000, Doug Jewell
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wrote:
On Nov 16, 9:08 am, "Martin Riddle" wrote:
All other negative comments beside. Olympus makes damm good PS's. I've been impressed for many years with them.


Agreed. But I think they may have faltered after the C5050 and C8080,
which remains one of my favorite cameras ever. The new 550 (?) has
fallen into the same trap that every manufacturer seems to have - they
just want to add pixels and let the noise increase... And they pushed
the lens a little too far.


In the current range, all the FE and mju series are made by
Sanyo, not Olympus. Not 100% sure on the SP550/560, but have
my suspicions on them as well. Funny how the Olympus,
Pentax, Nikon and Kodak cameras share the same battery, have
many other similarities (such as button position), and all
release cameras with basically the same specifications at
the same time.


Not terribly surprising -- most laptop/notebook brands are made in a
very few large factories by contract manufacturers, but that doesn't
mean they don't have significant differences.

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Old November 16th 07, 09:45 PM posted to aus.photo, rec.photo.digital, rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Nov 17, 4:05 am, John Navas wrote:
2 and only 2 people had DNS problems. Everyone else did not.


Sigh - It was 3 (spelled THREE) people, actually - I didn't post
*every* link, because I thought you might learn a lesson and actually
check. Like I said, you didn't do ANY homework. Hint - look up "SMS"
for the third person.

And given you also haven't noticed the repeated postings and
sockpuppeting by the anti-DSLR troll... well...

I like your comments in the next seven postings (??? - note this is my
*only* response) about personal attacks, after your 'foolish' and
'childish' remarks. You don't spot the irony? Good to see you solely
occupy the high ground. (O:

I also note how you have left Doug's insults uncommented.



G'nite.
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Old November 16th 07, 11:05 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:35:45 +0000, John Navas wrote:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:42:22 -0500, "Mark B."
wrote in :

"John Navas" wrote in message
. ..


It comes from childish mine-is-better bragging by DSLR advocates who
feel the need to feed their egos by putting down non-DSLRs and those
who use them at every opportunity, like wearing a (fake) Rolex to be
more cool.


But the truth is this thread - and others like it - are typically
started by P&S users, actually one particular P&S user who seems
obsessed with criticizing DSLR users and baiting them into a pointless
debate.


My own take is that the majority of the bashing and bragging is by DSLR
advocates, not so much entire threads as incessant response putdowns of
non-DSLRs. You're not seeing that?


Well...
The traffic these threads have generated is 20 times greater than any
other topic. They're public service listings!

People being walked on by DSLRdiots need this to air their views. They do
after all make up the majority of camera owners and without the
(considerable) profit from their purchases, DSLRdiots would still be
trying fo find a digital back for their cameras.

Douglas



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