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In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote:
Oh, a troll thread from Andreas. Been a while. A poster here has repeatedly whinged about not being able to find good restaurants in the tourist corridor of the Orlando area. Hardly surprising because 1) he was looking for good restaurants in an area where simply being open is all it takes to attract customers, and 2) "good" is a subjective judgment that is based primarily on acquired taste. Most adults feel that "good", in restaurant fare, is what they are used to and have found to be "good" over time. A restaurant in a country other than their own is not likely to serve the type of dish, prepared in the way they are used to, and spiced the way they are used to. Not at all. I like testing different food. Unfortunately, Americans don't season their food much at all, especially not in tourist-heavy areas, where most tourists are Americans. Most food is super-greasy, tons of added sugar and way too sweet to eat. But that's not really the biggest problem (and could be filed under the 'this is how we "spice" things in America). The biggest probem is the usually really low aulity of meat, produce and things like that. It's like you guys add syrup, sugar and salt to hide the crappy meat that's hidden underneath somewhere. US Chain restaurants have some advantage to the traveler. When traveling in the US, I know I will find what I consider to be good food in an Outback Steakhouse or a Carrabba's Italian Grill. I know that the food in an Olive Garden or a Denny's is not going to be something I will enjoy. I have no illusions that others will share this opinion. I pick a restaurant to please me, not others. As a foreigner, this is not a viable option, since few American chains exists abroad. And even on those that do exist abroad (like McDonald's) they still are of lower quality in the states. FOr instance; in America, the soda is sweetened with syrup instead of real sugar, as opposed to most of the rest of the world, which means that a Coke tastes... well, worse. Also, the quality of produce and meat in McDonald's in US is lower than most of Europe. While I like Carrabba's, I wouldn't recommend it to a person from Europe. American Italian-style food is not the same as what a European may be used to. Certainly not what an Italian is used to. Too much added sugar, usually. Same with most chinese food joints. I've traveled extensively in Europe, and had both hits and misses. The independently owned restaurant is more prevalent in Europe, so there's no experience factor involved in choosing restaurants. In Europe, the full parking lot and the presence of a crowd in a restaurant is not a dependable way to choose. The better restaurants often don't have on-site parking, and the crowd in the place only means that this restaurant offers what the local crowd likes. That can be quite different from the style of food that I like. Plus, Europe is such a diverse place, where food culture changes ever X miles you travel, most times significantly. But most places in Europe has good quality meat and produce to begin with, so whatever reason you end up disliking a dish has more to do with how it's done than what it was made of. I've never used Yelp or that type of thing for a recommendation. It's ridiculous to do so. Yelp recommendations are often "salted" by the restaurant. Proof? No? Thought so. Had the poster asked me for recommendation (fat chance!), I would have suggested trying places that serve a cuisine totally different from what he's used to...Sonny's for barbecue, a Cuban restaurant, a Southern-style restaurant, or a Mexican restaurant (not Taco Bell!). He may or may not like it, but be adventurous. Take your chances. That's one of the interesting things about travel. All the places we ate at were new to us, but alas; what most of them had in common is the low standard meat/produce and the added sugar/salt/fish fetish. And Taco Bell most certainly served a "cuisine" totally different to what we're used to! -- Sandman[.net] |
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"Sandman" wrote in message
... In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote: Oh, a troll thread from Andreas. Been a while. A poster here has repeatedly whinged about not being able to find good restaurants in the tourist corridor of the Orlando area. Hardly surprising because 1) he was looking for good restaurants in an area where simply being open is all it takes to attract customers, and 2) "good" is a subjective judgment that is based primarily on acquired taste. Most adults feel that "good", in restaurant fare, is what they are used to and have found to be "good" over time. A restaurant in a country other than their own is not likely to serve the type of dish, prepared in the way they are used to, and spiced the way they are used to. Not at all. I like testing different food. Unfortunately, Americans don't season their food much at all, especially not in tourist-heavy areas, where most tourists are Americans. I don't know much about Swedish food but if I had to guess, I wouldn't think that the food you eat is seasoned much. My not-very-educated impression of Swedish and Norwegian food (I know quite a few Norwegians) is that is is somewhat bland when it comes to seasoning and that's fine by me. I'm a picky eater, I don't like a lot of things and I am the farthest from an "adventruous eater" as you will find. Give me some meat and potatoes and I'm fine. Most food is super-greasy, tons of added sugar and way too sweet to eat. But that's not really the biggest problem (and could be filed under the 'this is how we "spice" things in America). The biggest probem is the usually really low aulity of meat, produce and things like that. It's like you guys add syrup, sugar and salt to hide the crappy meat that's hidden underneath somewhere. US Chain restaurants have some advantage to the traveler. When traveling in the US, I know I will find what I consider to be good food in an Outback Steakhouse or a Carrabba's Italian Grill. I know that the food in an Olive Garden or a Denny's is not going to be something I will enjoy. I have no illusions that others will share this opinion. I pick a restaurant to please me, not others. As a foreigner, this is not a viable option, since few American chains exists abroad. And even on those that do exist abroad (like McDonald's) they still are of lower quality in the states. FOr instance; in America, the soda is sweetened with syrup instead of real sugar, as opposed to most of the rest of the world, which means that a Coke tastes... well, worse. Also, the quality of produce and meat in McDonald's in US is lower than most of Europe. We're finally seeing things turn around a bit. More and more products are using sugar now instead of corn syrup. Sodas too - I see a lot of Coc-Cola products on the shelves originating from Mexico where they bottle with sugar, not corn syrup. I think eventually the US-produced Coke will wind up using sugar again. There is some thought that the corn syrup is not good for you but I don't believe there is any scientific evidence to say that. With the introduction of corn syrup into the American diet, the incidence of diabetes has increased dramatically. I'm a victim of that, but I blame myself for my condition, I didn't have a great diet and all those years of drinking a lot of Coca-Cola. Having diabetes on my mother's side of the family didn't help either. She is borderline diabetic but she it started when she was about 72 and she always has had a good diet. I got diabetes when I was 38. If I had the diet my mother had perhaps I would have fared better and not gotten it until I was much older like her. While I like Carrabba's, I wouldn't recommend it to a person from Europe. American Italian-style food is not the same as what a European may be used to. Certainly not what an Italian is used to. Too much added sugar, usually. Same with most chinese food joints. Really? I wouldn't think that Carrabba's adds much sugar to their food. If I eat a chicken dish with some soup and a little pasta on the side, how much sugar can they add to that? Chinese food, or what passes for Chinese food on the USA, wreaks havoc with my blood sugar levels because of the sauces - lots of sugar. I stay away from it now. I've traveled extensively in Europe, and had both hits and misses. The independently owned restaurant is more prevalent in Europe, so there's no experience factor involved in choosing restaurants. In Europe, the full parking lot and the presence of a crowd in a restaurant is not a dependable way to choose. The better restaurants often don't have on-site parking, and the crowd in the place only means that this restaurant offers what the local crowd likes. That can be quite different from the style of food that I like. Plus, Europe is such a diverse place, where food culture changes ever X miles you travel, most times significantly. But most places in Europe has good quality meat and produce to begin with, so whatever reason you end up disliking a dish has more to do with how it's done than what it was made of. I've never used Yelp or that type of thing for a recommendation. It's ridiculous to do so. Yelp recommendations are often "salted" by the restaurant. Proof? No? Thought so. Had the poster asked me for recommendation (fat chance!), I would have suggested trying places that serve a cuisine totally different from what he's used to...Sonny's for barbecue, a Cuban restaurant, a Southern-style restaurant, or a Mexican restaurant (not Taco Bell!). He may or may not like it, but be adventurous. Take your chances. That's one of the interesting things about travel. All the places we ate at were new to us, but alas; what most of them had in common is the low standard meat/produce and the added sugar/salt/fish fetish. And Taco Bell most certainly served a "cuisine" totally different to what we're used to! If I was Mexican, I'd take umbrage at Taco Bell being labeled a Mexican restaurant. Mexican food is extremely popular in the USA and "real" Mexican food has nothing in common with Taco Bell. |
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wrote: While I like Carrabba's, I wouldn't recommend it to a person from Europe. American Italian-style food is not the same as what a European may be used to. Certainly not what an Italian is used to. Too much added sugar, usually. Same with most chinese food joints. Really? I wouldn't think that Carrabba's adds much sugar to their food. If I eat a chicken dish with some soup and a little pasta on the side, how much sugar can they add to that? Chinese food, or what passes for Chinese food on the USA, wreaks havoc with my blood sugar levels because of the sauces - lots of sugar. I stay away from it now. you're eating at ****ty chinese restaurants. And Taco Bell most certainly served a "cuisine" totally different to what we're used to! If I was Mexican, I'd take umbrage at Taco Bell being labeled a Mexican restaurant. Mexican food is extremely popular in the USA and "real" Mexican food has nothing in common with Taco Bell. 'real' mexican food is not very popular in the usa. most mexican places are similar to taco bell but not as crappy. real mexican food is not the same. |
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On 1/19/2015 10:35 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , PAS wrote: While I like Carrabba's, I wouldn't recommend it to a person from Europe. American Italian-style food is not the same as what a European may be used to. Certainly not what an Italian is used to. Too much added sugar, usually. Same with most chinese food joints. Really? I wouldn't think that Carrabba's adds much sugar to their food. If I eat a chicken dish with some soup and a little pasta on the side, how much sugar can they add to that? Chinese food, or what passes for Chinese food on the USA, wreaks havoc with my blood sugar levels because of the sauces - lots of sugar. I stay away from it now. you're eating at ****ty chinese restaurants. And Taco Bell most certainly served a "cuisine" totally different to what we're used to! If I was Mexican, I'd take umbrage at Taco Bell being labeled a Mexican restaurant. Mexican food is extremely popular in the USA and "real" Mexican food has nothing in common with Taco Bell. 'real' mexican food is not very popular in the usa. most mexican places are similar to taco bell but not as crappy. real mexican food is not the same. Agreed. -- PeterN |
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On 1/19/2015 10:14 AM, PAS wrote:
big brevity snip Chinese food, or what passes for Chinese food on the USA, wreaks havoc with my blood sugar levels because of the sauces - lots of sugar. I stay away from it now. You have to get out of the East End. I agree there are no decent authentic Chinese restaurants there. While there is one near us, we prefer to go to Flushing, especially for soup dumplings. If I see a "Chinese" restaurant with table clothes and forks on the table I don't go in. -- PeterN |
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"PeterN" wrote in message
... On 1/19/2015 10:14 AM, PAS wrote: big brevity snip Chinese food, or what passes for Chinese food on the USA, wreaks havoc with my blood sugar levels because of the sauces - lots of sugar. I stay away from it now. You have to get out of the East End. I agree there are no decent authentic Chinese restaurants there. While there is one near us, we prefer to go to Flushing, especially for soup dumplings. If I see a "Chinese" restaurant with table clothes and forks on the table I don't go in. Not likely to happen - my wife is not a fan of Chinese food and rarely will eat it. She loves Mexican, there is a small place in Eastport called "El Rodeo" that is an authentic family-run Mexican restaurant. I'm not too keen on Mexican food but, like most restaurants, I always find something on the menu that I like. Speaking of finding something I like, my wife took me to Teller's in Islip to celebrate my 55th this weekend. Their menu has a lot of great choices for me. There's nothing like a great steak and potatoes for me. |
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On 1/19/2015 12:17 PM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message ... On 1/19/2015 10:14 AM, PAS wrote: big brevity snip Chinese food, or what passes for Chinese food on the USA, wreaks havoc with my blood sugar levels because of the sauces - lots of sugar. I stay away from it now. You have to get out of the East End. I agree there are no decent authentic Chinese restaurants there. While there is one near us, we prefer to go to Flushing, especially for soup dumplings. If I see a "Chinese" restaurant with table clothes and forks on the table I don't go in. Not likely to happen - my wife is not a fan of Chinese food and rarely will eat it. She loves Mexican, there is a small place in Eastport called "El Rodeo" that is an authentic family-run Mexican restaurant. I'm not too keen on Mexican food but, like most restaurants, I always find something on the menu that I like. As it is said: Happy wife, happy life. fortunately my wife and I have similar taste in food. (Though not 100%) Speaking of finding something I like, my wife took me to Teller's in Islip to celebrate my 55th this weekend. Their menu has a lot of great choices for me. There's nothing like a great steak and potatoes for me. Happy B'Day. I agree. Tellers is excellent. In that category, I have a personal preference for Rothman's because it's close. -- PeterN |
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"PeterN" wrote in message
... On 1/19/2015 12:17 PM, PAS wrote: "PeterN" wrote in message ... On 1/19/2015 10:14 AM, PAS wrote: big brevity snip Chinese food, or what passes for Chinese food on the USA, wreaks havoc with my blood sugar levels because of the sauces - lots of sugar. I stay away from it now. You have to get out of the East End. I agree there are no decent authentic Chinese restaurants there. While there is one near us, we prefer to go to Flushing, especially for soup dumplings. If I see a "Chinese" restaurant with table clothes and forks on the table I don't go in. Not likely to happen - my wife is not a fan of Chinese food and rarely will eat it. She loves Mexican, there is a small place in Eastport called "El Rodeo" that is an authentic family-run Mexican restaurant. I'm not too keen on Mexican food but, like most restaurants, I always find something on the menu that I like. As it is said: Happy wife, happy life. fortunately my wife and I have similar taste in food. (Though not 100%) Speaking of finding something I like, my wife took me to Teller's in Islip to celebrate my 55th this weekend. Their menu has a lot of great choices for me. There's nothing like a great steak and potatoes for me. Happy B'Day. I agree. Tellers is excellent. In that category, I have a personal preference for Rothman's because it's close. I loved Ben Benson's Steakhouse in Manhattan. It's sad that the landlord forced him out and the restaurant closed after decades of business. |
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wrote: If I see a "Chinese" restaurant with table clothes and forks on the table I don't go in. Not likely to happen - my wife is not a fan of Chinese food and rarely will eat it. then she hasn't had good chinese food. i wasn't a fan of mexican food until i had real mexican food. She loves Mexican, there is a small place in Eastport called "El Rodeo" that is an authentic family-run Mexican restaurant. I'm not too keen on Mexican food but, like most restaurants, I always find something on the menu that I like. nowhere near as good as mexican food in the southwestern states, particularly southern california. it's like trying to find new york pizza on the west coast. some places claim to offer it but they definitely do not. similarly, trying to find good chicago pizza outside of chicago won't result in much success. Speaking of finding something I like, my wife took me to Teller's in Islip to celebrate my 55th this weekend. Their menu has a lot of great choices for me. There's nothing like a great steak and potatoes for me. this place? http://tellerschophouse.com/ it looks a bit better than the usual steak place and certainly more expensive, but still boring. |
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On 1/19/2015 12:54 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PAS wrote: If I see a "Chinese" restaurant with table clothes and forks on the table I don't go in. Not likely to happen - my wife is not a fan of Chinese food and rarely will eat it. then she hasn't had good chinese food. i wasn't a fan of mexican food until i had real mexican food. She loves Mexican, there is a small place in Eastport called "El Rodeo" that is an authentic family-run Mexican restaurant. I'm not too keen on Mexican food but, like most restaurants, I always find something on the menu that I like. nowhere near as good as mexican food in the southwestern states, particularly southern california. it's like trying to find new york pizza on the west coast. some places claim to offer it but they definitely do not. similarly, trying to find good chicago pizza outside of chicago won't result in much success. Speaking of finding something I like, my wife took me to Teller's in Islip to celebrate my 55th this weekend. Their menu has a lot of great choices for me. There's nothing like a great steak and potatoes for me. this place? http://tellerschophouse.com/ it looks a bit better than the usual steak place and certainly more expensive, but still boring. So don't eat there. Who I dine with is far more important than where I dine, and what I eat. -- PeterN |
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