D70 icc profile

Can some kind soul point me to where I can download an icc profile for a
nikon D70 pls

John Stolz writes ...

Can some kind soul point me to where I can download an icc profile for
a nikon D70 pls

How would you use it?

There's a reason they are not available ...

Bill

Bill Hilton wrote:
John Stolz writes ...

Can some kind soul point me to where I can download an icc profile for
a nikon D70 pls

How would you use it?

There's a reason they are not available ...

Bill

The reason is that the ICC profile changes with each lighting
situation, yes it would be the most accurate way but very impractical.
Most digital shooters use the color space that best suits their needs,
Adobe RGB or sRGB. Corrections are done through the use of RAW files or
as jpegs in an image editor.

Tom

Bill Hilton wrote:
John Stolz writes ...

Can some kind soul point me to where I can download an icc profile for
a nikon D70 pls

How would you use it?

Let me guess - your on Windows? On a you can use the input icc profile
My RAW software can read an input icc file which makes color management
workflow much easier and more effective.
There's a reason they are not available ...
Don't think so - in fact Nikon provide one on the CDROM that comes with
their digital SLRs - I just don't have the disk anymore.

Does anyone know where I can download one?

tomm42 wrote:
Bill Hilton wrote:
John Stolz writes ...

Can some kind soul point me to where I can download an icc profile for
a nikon D70 pls
How would you use it?

There's a reason they are not available ...

Bill

The reason is that the ICC profile changes with each lighting
situation, yes it would be the most accurate way but very impractical.
Most digital shooters use the color space that best suits their needs,
Adobe RGB or sRGB. Corrections are done through the use of RAW files or
as jpegs in an image editor.

Tom

Maybe on a windows PC, but there are better ways to manage these things.
A Mac has proper color management built in to the OS - its not really
practical to fiddle with every print to make it cncordant with the image
on screen

There's a reason they are not available ...

tomm42 writes ...

The reason is that the ICC profile changes with each lighting
situation, yes it would be the most accurate way but very impractical

Finally, someone who understands

The only people I know who are generating custom ICC profiles for
digital cameras are shooting things like products in catalogs where,
for example, the peach color of the shirt in the catalog had better
look the same in every catalog and match the actual shirt, or the
customer might return it ... as Tom says you generate an accurate
profile for one set of lighting conditions (same intensity, same color
balance for every shot the profile will be applied to) so this
generally means you are shooting in a studio with strobe lights.
Change the light intensity or color balance and you need a new profile.
That's why they aren't available to the general public.

Most digital shooters use the color space that best suits their needs,
Adobe RGB or sRGB.

These are "abstract working spaces" to edit in, which is different than
a "device-specific profile" for a specific camera like the D70 (as I'm
sure Tom knows).

Bill

John Stolz writes ...

Let me guess - your on Windows?

Yes I am but the concepts are identical on both Macs and PCs.

On a (Mac?) you can use the input icc profile

You can use an input icc profile on a PC too, it's just that it's
pointless for a digital camera because it won't be accurate unless it's
a custom profile for one particular set of lighting conditions. You
need to learn the difference between "device-specific" ICC profiles and
"working space" profiles, which are used for edits.

My RAW software can read an input icc file which makes color
management workflow much easier and more effective

One of the four RAW converters I use also allows you to use input ICC
profiles for a specific camera and I have a dozen or so profiles for my
1Ds, but each one is valid only for one lighting condition. Asking for
a generic profile isn't the way to do it.

Also, the profile is specific to the camera and that specific RAW
converter, in other words an ICC profile generated for say Capture One
won't be accurate with a different RAW converter (or in some cases even
with different revs of Capture One).

in fact Nikon provide one on the CDROM that comes with
their digital SLRs - I just don't have the disk anymore.

If it's for the Nikon software you should be able to download it from
their web site. But as has been explained, it's only accurate for one
lighting condition and one RAW converter, so it's basically worthless
once you understand how it works.

Bill

John Stolz wrote:

tomm42 wrote:
Bill Hilton wrote:
John Stolz writes ...

Can some kind soul point me to where I can download an icc profile for
a nikon D70 pls
How would you use it?

There's a reason they are not available ...

Bill

The reason is that the ICC profile changes with each lighting
situation, yes it would be the most accurate way but very impractical.
Most digital shooters use the color space that best suits their needs,
Adobe RGB or sRGB. Corrections are done through the use of RAW files or
as jpegs in an image editor.

Tom

Maybe on a windows PC, but there are better ways to manage these things.
A Mac has proper color management built in to the OS - its not really
practical to fiddle with every print to make it cncordant with the image
on screen

It has NOTHING to do with the OS (even though I'm not a big windows fan). If
you understood color management at =ALL=, you'd understand how useless a
camera ICC profile is except one generated by the camera itself under
controlled repeatable lighting like in a studio. Natural light varies way
to much for this to be even possible using normal color management
practices.

Also it sounds like what you are really talking about is a good ICC profile
for your monitor/printer as that's what controls what your screen/output
relationship looks like.

I suggest you read up on the subject before you further confuse yourself.

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Stacey

Bill Hilton wrote:

There's a reason they are not available ...

tomm42 writes ...

The reason is that the ICC profile changes with each lighting
situation, yes it would be the most accurate way but very impractical

Finally, someone who understands

The only people I know who are generating custom ICC profiles for
digital cameras are shooting things like products in catalogs where,
for example, the peach color of the shirt in the catalog had better
look the same in every catalog and match the actual shirt, or the
customer might return it ... as Tom says you generate an accurate
profile for one set of lighting conditions (same intensity, same color
balance for every shot the profile will be applied to) so this
generally means you are shooting in a studio with strobe lights.
Change the light intensity or color balance and you need a new profile.
That's why they aren't available to the general public.

Most digital shooters use the color space that best suits their needs,
Adobe RGB or sRGB.

These are "abstract working spaces" to edit in, which is different than
a "device-specific profile" for a specific camera like the D70 (as I'm
sure Tom knows).



Nice to see other people who understand this stuff! It's not rocket science
but it kills me how many people "apply a color space" rather than
converting or edit using their printer profile as their working color
space!

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Stacey

John Stolz wrote:

Bill Hilton wrote:
John Stolz writes ...

Can some kind soul point me to where I can download an icc profile for
a nikon D70 pls

How would you use it?

Let me guess - your on Windows? On a you can use the input icc profile
My RAW software can read an input icc file which makes color management
workflow much easier and more effective.

So can windows, but your only need input ICC profiles for something like a
scanner. The ONLY time you can even use an ICC profile for input color
management with a camera is for a controlled situation like a studio with a
fixed strobe setup.

There's a reason they are not available ...
Don't think so - in fact Nikon provide one on the CDROM that comes with
their digital SLRs - I just don't have the disk anymore.


Go ahead and be a ignorant jerk, You have =no idea= how color management
even works if you are looking for a camera ICC profile.

Here's a hint, why do you think the white balance is adjustable in the RAW
software?

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Stacey