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Old June 24th 04, 10:35 AM
sreenath
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Hello,

I bought a few 35mm rolls of Ilford PAN 100 recently in India. The
speed specified is ASA 100.

I developed the roll and like the results very much. However the edge
marking clearly says "Ilford HP5 Plus". Also there is a number, I
think it is: 4307.

On the web I find that Ilford HP5 Plus is a 400 speed film!

So I would like to know more about this. What is the real speed of
this Ilford PAN 100? Can anyone please help?

Thanks,
Sreenath
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Old June 24th 04, 02:41 PM
Michael A. Covington
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I think you've caught Ilford in a curious labeling mistake!

HP5 Plus is of course a 400 speed film. It has enough exposure latitude
that if exposed at 100, it will produce pictures, especially if not
overdeveloped.

"sreenath" wrote in message
om...
Hello,

I bought a few 35mm rolls of Ilford PAN 100 recently in India. The
speed specified is ASA 100.

I developed the roll and like the results very much. However the edge
marking clearly says "Ilford HP5 Plus". Also there is a number, I
think it is: 4307.

On the web I find that Ilford HP5 Plus is a 400 speed film!

So I would like to know more about this. What is the real speed of
this Ilford PAN 100? Can anyone please help?

Thanks,
Sreenath



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Old June 24th 04, 07:17 PM
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
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In article ,
Michael A. Covington wrote:

I think you've caught Ilford in a curious labeling mistake!


It's probably not a mistake. It's more of what is now called a "re-tasking".

HP5 Plus is of course a 400 speed film. It has enough exposure latitude
that if exposed at 100, it will produce pictures, especially if not
overdeveloped.


Remember this was from India, a country where people parking their
Mercedes' have to be careful not to run over the people sleeping in the
street who got there first.

Monochrome photography still makes economic sense especialy with cheap
fixed focus and exposure point and shoot cameras. By exposing HP5 plus
at ISO 100 and reducing development you can get good negatives.

The same thing is done here with ISO 200 color negative film.

Geoff.

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Old June 24th 04, 09:08 PM
Nicholas O. Lindan
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"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" Jerusalem Israel, wrote

Monochrome photography still makes economic sense especialy with cheap
fixed focus and exposure point and shoot cameras.


Here in the land of US, color costs less: processing, film, paper &
chemicals.

I think color works better in bad cameras. It makes
up for lack of contrast and a fuzzy lens, and the exposure
latitude of color is pretty huge.

Color also works better with every day subjects. Oh Wow! color can
be had for a few colored balloons and a blue sky, making up
for so-what subject matter, composition and lighting.

Old black & white snapshots are uniformly dull: grey on grey or soot
on chalk, no texture, white or grey skies: It was as if everyone
lived in East Berlin before it was colorized.

YMMV

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Old June 25th 04, 08:28 AM
sreenath
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Default ilford pan 100 = ilford HP5 plus?

So what does this mean? I would be delighted to have a real 400 speed
film. That gives me flexibility in exposure especiall in low light
using colour filters.

Or is it possible that this is 400 speed film that somehow failed to
meet the quality standards, and hence had to be degraded?

Thanks,
Sreenath

"Michael A. Covington" wrote in message ...
I think you've caught Ilford in a curious labeling mistake!

HP5 Plus is of course a 400 speed film. It has enough exposure latitude
that if exposed at 100, it will produce pictures, especially if not
overdeveloped.

"sreenath" wrote in message
om...
Hello,

I bought a few 35mm rolls of Ilford PAN 100 recently in India. The
speed specified is ASA 100.

I developed the roll and like the results very much. However the edge
marking clearly says "Ilford HP5 Plus". Also there is a number, I
think it is: 4307.

On the web I find that Ilford HP5 Plus is a 400 speed film!

So I would like to know more about this. What is the real speed of
this Ilford PAN 100? Can anyone please help?

Thanks,
Sreenath

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Old June 25th 04, 03:39 PM
Michael A. Covington
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"sreenath" wrote in message
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So what does this mean? I would be delighted to have a real 400 speed
film. That gives me flexibility in exposure especiall in low light
using colour filters.

Or is it possible that this is 400 speed film that somehow failed to
meet the quality standards, and hence had to be degraded?


That is possible. Another possibility is that a batch of 100-speed film was
mistakenly edge-labeled with the wrong labeling at the factory -- and no one
would notice until it was developed.


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Old June 25th 04, 04:02 PM
Nick Zentena
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Michael A. Covington wrote:

"sreenath" wrote in message
om...
So what does this mean? I would be delighted to have a real 400 speed
film. That gives me flexibility in exposure especiall in low light
using colour filters.

Or is it possible that this is 400 speed film that somehow failed to
meet the quality standards, and hence had to be degraded?


That is possible. Another possibility is that a batch of 100-speed film was
mistakenly edge-labeled with the wrong labeling at the factory -- and no one
would notice until it was developed.



Or they did notice and that's why it was packaged Pan 100. Instead of
tossing otherwise good film they sent it out in a budget package.

Nick
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Old June 26th 04, 07:48 AM
sreenath
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Default ilford pan 100 = ilford HP5 plus?

Thanks for all the responses. I will try to expose one roll at 400 ASA
to see if this can work satisfactorily at that speed.


Nick Zentena wrote in message ...
Michael A. Covington wrote:

"sreenath" wrote in message
om...
So what does this mean? I would be delighted to have a real 400 speed
film. That gives me flexibility in exposure especiall in low light
using colour filters.

Or is it possible that this is 400 speed film that somehow failed to
meet the quality standards, and hence had to be degraded?


That is possible. Another possibility is that a batch of 100-speed film was
mistakenly edge-labeled with the wrong labeling at the factory -- and no one
would notice until it was developed.



Or they did notice and that's why it was packaged Pan 100. Instead of
tossing otherwise good film they sent it out in a budget package.

Nick

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Old July 5th 04, 11:15 AM
Bijesh
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Default ilford pan 100 = ilford HP5 plus?

Ilford PAN 100 is not HP5. It's a 100 ASA film. You can get the specs from
the Ilford site. There is a Ilford PAN 400 also.

And in India, B&W photography is costlier than color photography. It's not
that different from US.

 




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