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What's up with Nikon
Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like the D70 and now the D2X. |
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"leo" wrote in
ink.net: Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like the D70 and now the D2X. Different tactics - thats all. Both are just as valid. A third tactic - to announce cameras that never arrive is not a really clever tactic though - at least not in the long run. /Roland |
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Nikon have a 3 year upgrade period and when they release a product
it is right first time - unlike the D60 which lasted a mere 7 months before it had to be upgraded to bring it into line with the D100. Now we have the 20D which is only a slight improvement on the 10D. If the 20D had 10 or 12 mp I might have been tempted to switch to Canon but at 8mp the 20D appears to be a big mistake. Who's going to buy it? Certainly not many D60, 10D or D100 owners. I'm waiting for a D2X or D200 - can't afford Canon's upgrade path. Graham "leo" wrote in message ink.net... Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like the D70 and now the D2X. |
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"gsum" wrote in
: Nikon have a 3 year upgrade period and when they release a product it is right first time What does this have to do with announcing a product six months in advance? - unlike the D60 which lasted a mere 7 months before it had to be upgraded to bring it into line with the D100. Now we have the 20D which is only a slight improvement on the 10D. If you had actually *used* the 20D, you wouldn't have said this. If the 20D had 10 or 12 mp ....it would have cost $4,500 or more, instead of $1,500. I might have been tempted to switch to Canon but at 8mp the 20D appears to be a big mistake. For who, exactly? Who's going to buy it? Someone who wants, oh, 90, 95% of the feature set of the 1d MkII at a fraction of the cost. Certainly not many D60, 10D or D100 owners. You left out a good reason why this claim would be true. I'm waiting for a D2X or D200 - can't afford Canon's upgrade path. Right, right - but you *can* afford to pay three times as much for another camera body. Got it. |
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"Eric Gill" wrote in message 4... "gsum" wrote in : Nikon have a 3 year upgrade period and when they release a product it is right first time What does this have to do with announcing a product six months in advance? The implication of the original poster's statement is that Nikon have nothing to offer at the moment so they are hyping a product that will not appear for a long time. The original statement is factually incorrect, by the way. The D70 and D100 were announced about two months before they became available. - unlike the D60 which lasted a mere 7 months before it had to be upgraded to bring it into line with the D100. Now we have the 20D which is only a slight improvement on the 10D. If you had actually *used* the 20D, you wouldn't have said this. I'm not knocking the quality of the 10D or 20D, just sttaing that the Canon upgrade path is extremely expensive relative to Nikon's. If the 20D had 10 or 12 mp ...it would have cost $4,500 or more, instead of $1,500. I might have been tempted to switch to Canon but at 8mp the 20D appears to be a big mistake. For who, exactly? Canon Who's going to buy it? Someone who wants, oh, 90, 95% of the feature set of the 1d MkII at a fraction of the cost. Certainly not many D60, 10D or D100 owners. You left out a good reason why this claim would be true. It's only 8mp - 2mp more than the D60, 10D and D100, all of which are fine cameras within the 6mp limitations. I'm waiting for a D2X or D200 - can't afford Canon's upgrade path. Right, right - but you *can* afford to pay three times as much for another camera body. Got it. ??????? So following the D30, D60, 10D and 20D upgrade path is cheaper than the D100, D200 path!!!! Graham |
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"Eric Gill" wrote in message 4... "gsum" wrote in : Nikon have a 3 year upgrade period and when they release a product it is right first time What does this have to do with announcing a product six months in advance? The implication of the original poster's statement is that Nikon have nothing to offer at the moment so they are hyping a product that will not appear for a long time. The original statement is factually incorrect, by the way. The D70 and D100 were announced about two months before they became available. - unlike the D60 which lasted a mere 7 months before it had to be upgraded to bring it into line with the D100. Now we have the 20D which is only a slight improvement on the 10D. If you had actually *used* the 20D, you wouldn't have said this. I'm not knocking the quality of the 10D or 20D, just sttaing that the Canon upgrade path is extremely expensive relative to Nikon's. If the 20D had 10 or 12 mp ...it would have cost $4,500 or more, instead of $1,500. I might have been tempted to switch to Canon but at 8mp the 20D appears to be a big mistake. For who, exactly? Canon Who's going to buy it? Someone who wants, oh, 90, 95% of the feature set of the 1d MkII at a fraction of the cost. Certainly not many D60, 10D or D100 owners. You left out a good reason why this claim would be true. It's only 8mp - 2mp more than the D60, 10D and D100, all of which are fine cameras within the 6mp limitations. I'm waiting for a D2X or D200 - can't afford Canon's upgrade path. Right, right - but you *can* afford to pay three times as much for another camera body. Got it. ??????? So following the D30, D60, 10D and 20D upgrade path is cheaper than the D100, D200 path!!!! Graham |
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"Eric Gill" wrote in message 4... "gsum" wrote in : Nikon have a 3 year upgrade period and when they release a product it is right first time What does this have to do with announcing a product six months in advance? The implication of the original poster's statement is that Nikon have nothing to offer at the moment so they are hyping a product that will not appear for a long time. The original statement is factually incorrect, by the way. The D70 and D100 were announced about two months before they became available. - unlike the D60 which lasted a mere 7 months before it had to be upgraded to bring it into line with the D100. Now we have the 20D which is only a slight improvement on the 10D. If you had actually *used* the 20D, you wouldn't have said this. I'm not knocking the quality of the 10D or 20D, just sttaing that the Canon upgrade path is extremely expensive relative to Nikon's. If the 20D had 10 or 12 mp ...it would have cost $4,500 or more, instead of $1,500. I might have been tempted to switch to Canon but at 8mp the 20D appears to be a big mistake. For who, exactly? Canon Who's going to buy it? Someone who wants, oh, 90, 95% of the feature set of the 1d MkII at a fraction of the cost. Certainly not many D60, 10D or D100 owners. You left out a good reason why this claim would be true. It's only 8mp - 2mp more than the D60, 10D and D100, all of which are fine cameras within the 6mp limitations. I'm waiting for a D2X or D200 - can't afford Canon's upgrade path. Right, right - but you *can* afford to pay three times as much for another camera body. Got it. ??????? So following the D30, D60, 10D and 20D upgrade path is cheaper than the D100, D200 path!!!! Graham |
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"gsum" wrote in message
... Nikon have a 3 year upgrade period and when they release a product it is right first time - unlike the D60 which lasted a mere 7 months before it had to be upgraded to bring it into line with the D100. Now we have the 20D which is only a slight improvement on the 10D. If the 20D had 10 or 12 mp I might have been tempted to switch to Canon but at 8mp the 20D appears to be a big mistake. Who's going to buy it? Certainly not many D60, 10D or D100 owners. I'm waiting for a D2X or D200 - can't afford Canon's upgrade path. Graham 20D is not in the same price as D2X. Perhaps you mean 1D MK II? The sensor improvement is not Nikon's own but Sony's. Canon possibly believes they have an upper hand on the dSLR sensor development. Otherwise, they can simply buy the Sony chips just like other SLR manufacturers and their own digicam lines. |
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leo wrote:
20D is not in the same price as D2X. Perhaps you mean 1D MK II? The sensor improvement is not Nikon's own but Sony's. Well, we don't know that -- we know for certain that it's made in the Sony fab, but there's nothing novel about that. It may well be a custom Nikon design. Andrew. |
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