EOS 20D - impressive stuff

"Sabineellen" wrote in message
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Spot meter would have been nice, but it's not something I can't live w/o.

Has no spot meter? Whoaa what an omission. Even my inexpensive P&S digicam
has
a spot meter option (as well as center-weighted and average). Why did they
omit
that? It couldn't have been hard or expensive to implement.

It still has partial metering, 9% of the center portion. Not totally
hadicapped. Spot metering usually measures the center 3.5% though.

In article , says...
Really. It's got three BIG holes: spot meter, RGB histograms (for both RAW
and processed), and some way to get grid lines on the screen.

Those wouldn't cost much to implement, but still - same street price as
the 10D upon release and lighter and smaller to boot!
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In article , says...
Really. It's got three BIG holes: spot meter, RGB histograms (for both RAW
and processed), and some way to get grid lines on the screen.

Those wouldn't cost much to implement, but still - same street price as
the 10D upon release and lighter and smaller to boot!
--
http://www.pbase.com/bcbaird/

"Sabineellen" wrote in message
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Spot meter would have been nice, but it's not something I can't live w/o.

Has no spot meter? Whoaa what an omission. Even my inexpensive P&S digicam
has
a spot meter option (as well as center-weighted and average). Why did they
omit
that? It couldn't have been hard or expensive to implement.

While many P&S digicams refer to a "spot meter", it is often not a very
pin-pointed "spot" it uses. Often it is merely the center portion, but a
rather large center portion...rather than true spot.

"Mark B." wrote in message
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"Chris Brown" wrote in message
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There are previews up on most of the usual sites now. I must say, Canon
seem
to have excelled themselves. The new AF system with the little joystick
looks very cool, and the noise performance, being equal to or better
than
the 10D with smaller pixels is very impressive indeed. Looks like there
are
lots of interface improvements and other little niceties over the 10D as
well.

It certainly looks like more of an upgrade than the leaked specs
suggested,
but I'll still stick with the 10D. If it had a spot meter, I'd perhaps
feel
differently. Time to settle back down to waiting for a digital EOS 3.


Update - according to a review by Rob Galbraith, the buffer is only good
for
6 (!) images when shooting raw, compared to 24 for jpg. That's not so
good.

On the dpreview site, they have sound recordings available that play back a
full 36 shots at full res jpeg without slowing at all. That's a lot more
than 24.
They did not record for RAW...

In message ,
(Sabineellen) wrote:

Spot meter would have been nice, but it's not something I can't live w/o.

Has no spot meter? Whoaa what an omission. Even my inexpensive P&S digicam has
a spot meter option (as well as center-weighted and average). Why did they omit
that? It couldn't have been hard or expensive to implement.

It's probably more difficult than on your P&S, because your P&S has live
feed, and reading an 8*8 pixel spot on it would be trivial. The DSLRs
need a separate sensor for metering than for exposing.
--


John P Sheehy

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In message ,
(Sabineellen) wrote:

Spot meter would have been nice, but it's not something I can't live
w/o.

Has no spot meter? Whoaa what an omission. Even my inexpensive P&S
digicam has
a spot meter option (as well as center-weighted and average). Why did
they omit
that? It couldn't have been hard or expensive to implement.

It's probably more difficult than on your P&S, because your P&S has live
feed, and reading an 8*8 pixel spot on it would be trivial. The DSLRs
need a separate sensor for metering than for exposing.
--


John P Sheehy


I wonder what percentage of coverage that spot meter in the P&S is...
The Canon D30/D60/10D/20D has a 9% "partial" spot meter. My A2 had a 3%,
IIRC, spot meter, and my 1n a 2.5%, again, IIRC, since I'm too lazy to
toddle into the other room to get the manuals. My hand held Sekonic spot
meter was 1%, which, I believe is the same as the Nikon F5.

--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com

"Skip M" wrote in message
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In message ,
(Sabineellen) wrote:

Spot meter would have been nice, but it's not something I can't live
w/o.

Has no spot meter? Whoaa what an omission. Even my inexpensive P&S
digicam has
a spot meter option (as well as center-weighted and average). Why did
they omit
that? It couldn't have been hard or expensive to implement.

It's probably more difficult than on your P&S, because your P&S has live
feed, and reading an 8*8 pixel spot on it would be trivial. The DSLRs
need a separate sensor for metering than for exposing.
--


John P Sheehy


I wonder what percentage of coverage that spot meter in the P&S is...
The Canon D30/D60/10D/20D has a 9% "partial" spot meter. My A2 had a 3%,
IIRC, spot meter, and my 1n a 2.5%, again, IIRC, since I'm too lazy to
toddle into the other room to get the manuals. My hand held Sekonic spot
meter was 1%, which, I believe is the same as the Nikon F5.

All the high end consumer digicam spot meters I know about are true 1% spot
meters. The one in the F707 works great.

By the way, to add insult to injury, the 10D and 300D have SEVEN spot
meters. They only work with flash, though, and on the 300D, the lack of FEC
means that it gives the wrong exposure almost every time. On the 10D, people
who understand spot metering get correctly exposed flash shots, if they
remember to dial in the exposure compensation at every shot.

David J. Littleboy

Tokyo, Japan

Skip M wrote:
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I wonder what percentage of coverage that spot meter in the P&S is...
The Canon D30/D60/10D/20D has a 9% "partial" spot meter. My A2 had a
3%, IIRC, spot meter, and my 1n a 2.5%, again, IIRC, since I'm too
lazy to toddle into the other room to get the manuals. My hand held
Sekonic spot meter was 1%, which, I believe is the same as the Nikon
F5.

The Nikon Coolpix 5700 is 3% (the manual quotes 1/32 of the total frame).

Cheers,
David

Skip M wrote:
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I wonder what percentage of coverage that spot meter in the P&S is...
The Canon D30/D60/10D/20D has a 9% "partial" spot meter. My A2 had a
3%, IIRC, spot meter, and my 1n a 2.5%, again, IIRC, since I'm too
lazy to toddle into the other room to get the manuals. My hand held
Sekonic spot meter was 1%, which, I believe is the same as the Nikon
F5.

The Nikon Coolpix 5700 is 3% (the manual quotes 1/32 of the total frame).

Cheers,
David