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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:23:54 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; That's nuthin! I got an offer for CS 6 for $300! Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-( US$ ????? If so why? Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186 which is US$1270. So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"? I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy there is this note: "What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs? Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total shipping charge at the time you place your order. • Australia: Shipping is A$25. * • Brazil: Shipping is US$25. • Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost. Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil, the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't appear on your order during the checkout process.*" With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it still contains the 'Australian Tariff'. Would you be able to hide your physical location behind a gmail address? Then use one of our physical US addresses, preferably one of the Texas brethren as I have a 7.25% California sales tax to deal with, for drop shipping. I am not sure of the Sales tax issue in Florida. You might even be able to get one of us to buy it via Amazon and have it shipped as a gift. I can buy it myself from Amazon as long as I give a US shipping adress. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
On 2012-08-29 20:31:47 -0700, PeterN said:
On 8/29/2012 10:59 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 19:16:00 -0700, tony cooper said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:29:36 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 18:10:35 -0700, tony cooper said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:03:23 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 15:46:38 -0700, "Russell D." said: On 08/28/2012 05:43 PM, Alan Browne wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; GIMP is still free. Free, and after making the comparison with PS, it still sits unused on my computer. GIMP does a reasonable job for those who deny the functionality of CS5/6, or those who insist of "free". You do get what you pay for. After making the basic comparison and saying that they are both capable of editing and adjusting image files, there is no contest. CS3/4/5/6 are all far superior to GIMP. ...but GIMP is "free". I don't know how you can really compare Photoshop with GIMP. You can't. It's horses for courses. Yup! Anyone who has used both will tell you that GIMP is extremely limited compared to Photoshop, but that's only a problem if you want to go beyond the basic edits. Even GIMP is over-kill for some people. Undoubtably. Photoshop only becomes superior to GIMP when the user wants to progress to more than GIMP can do. No. It has always been superior. The tools have been there regardless of the user's ability to deal with the program. That's true, but I think you're ignoring the meaning here. If the user isn't aware of what the tool can do, and doesn't get training on the use of the tool, it's as if the tool isn't there. I think that if some malware went out to all Photoshop users that crippled every function in Photoshop that is not present in GIMP, that 90-some percent of the users would be able to do exactly what they're doing now. (Professionals excluded) The same can be said for dslrs. Sneak in and superglue the cameras to the AUTO setting and a majority of users would be producing the same output they were when using A,S,P, and M...if they ever did. Unlikely what ifs. I thought you might have got my point. I'm not talking about you, Duck. You're in the 10% because you understand and use the tools in Photoshop. I have made my attempt at GIMP and found it lacking for me. Others might find it adequate, but those who tout it as a PS replacement are delusional. There is no comparison. It's a replacement for the people who use just the tools in Photoshop that are present in GIMP. There are an awful lot of people in that group. That's my point. ...but it can edit and adjust image files, and most importantly for many, it is free, and open source for the Linux crowd. ...and the last time I used "Auto" on a DSLR was the first week I had my D70 some time in 2004. Again, this isn't about you. OK! OK! I get it. I was just pushing the envelope a little bit. Of course my D300S doesn't have an "Auto" mode, Just "P", "A", "S", & "M", and those are selected via the rear command wheel. ....and not one "scene" mode to be found anywhere. Uhm! Why isn't P, with auto WB the same as an auto mode? First the auto WB is only applicable if you are shooting JPEG, or RAW+JPEG. The "P" mode in the D300/S and the Nikon Prosumer DSLRs has a degree of auto, but does not function in the same way "auto" does on say a D70. "P" stands for "Programed Auto". However it allows a degree of flexibility which exceeds "Auto" in a D70 or such. For example shooting in "Auto" generally means setting to "Auto" and letting the camera do its thing. In "P" mode, you have the ability to adjust aperture via the main Command wheel. The shutter speed will then balance with the selected f-stop and set ISO to reach a metered exposure. You might say that "P" mode is "Auto flex" rather than the hands off approach offered by full auto. Of course in "P" mode, which also exists on the D70, if you don't touch anything you have something of an "Auto" mode, but it is more than that. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
On 2012-08-29 20:44:58 -0700, Eric Stevens said:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:23:54 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; That's nuthin! I got an offer for CS 6 for $300! Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-( US$ ????? If so why? Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186 which is US$1270. So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"? I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy there is this note: "What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs? Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total shipping charge at the time you place your order. • Australia: Shipping is A$25. * • Brazil: Shipping is US$25. • Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost. Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil, the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't appear on your order during the checkout process.*" With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it still contains the 'Australian Tariff'. Would you be able to hide your physical location behind a gmail address? Then use one of our physical US addresses, preferably one of the Texas brethren as I have a 7.25% California sales tax to deal with, for drop shipping. I am not sure of the Sales tax issue in Florida. You might even be able to get one of us to buy it via Amazon and have it shipped as a gift. I can buy it myself from Amazon as long as I give a US shipping adress. That would be the way to do it. Then have it drop shipped to NZ via FedEx, or UPS, they would add customs & import charges, and probably your local sales tax to the shipment costs. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
On 2012-08-29 20:53:03 -0700, tony cooper said:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:23:54 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; That's nuthin! I got an offer for CS 6 for $300! Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-( US$ ????? If so why? Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186 which is US$1270. So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"? I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy there is this note: "What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs? Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total shipping charge at the time you place your order. • Australia: Shipping is A$25. * • Brazil: Shipping is US$25. • Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost. Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil, the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't appear on your order during the checkout process.*" With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it still contains the 'Australian Tariff'. Would you be able to hide your physical location behind a gmail address? Then use one of our physical US addresses, preferably one of the Texas brethren as I have a 7.25% California sales tax to deal with, for drop shipping. I am not sure of the Sales tax issue in Florida. No sales tax charged to Florida residents by some vendors. If the vendor has a physical location in Florida, they do. B&H, no tax. However, Photoshop requires online registration to activate and "calls home", doesn't it? I don't know how that magic works, but I'm sure gmail won't fool 'em. I may be wrong, here, though. That shouldn't be an issue. I am sure there are a fair number of travelers to the US who buy a copy of CS? here, return home return home with a disc to install and will have absolutely no issues at all. The download delivery might be problematic. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
On 2012-08-29 20:54:28 -0700, tony cooper said:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:01:33 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:23:50 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2012.08.29 20:23 , Eric Stevens wrote: Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186 which is US$1270. Send me a cheque in Canadian funds, I'll purchase it locally and ship it to you. If you want to do that we can discuss it by e-mail. Thank you very much. I might yet take you up on that offer. I suggest you check out the registration requirements and "phone home" thing. I'd hate to see you get something and not be able to use it. When I took my trip to South Africa in 2009, I took a D90 and a copy of PSE 9 for the daughter of an old friend. We made a standard install on her Windows machine without issue. The Product Number was accepted without question, and the registration completed in Johannesburg, South Africa for a new copy of PSE bought in the USA. ....and I have had no news of any problems. So I don't believe Eric would have any problem with registration, regardless of where his actual purchase was made. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
On Aug 29, 10:31*pm, PeterN wrote:
On 8/29/2012 10:59 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 19:16:00 -0700, tony cooper said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:29:36 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 18:10:35 -0700, tony cooper said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:03:23 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 15:46:38 -0700, "Russell D." said: On 08/28/2012 05:43 PM, Alan Browne wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; GIMP is still free. Free, and after making the comparison with PS, it still sits unused on my computer. GIMP does a reasonable job for those who deny the functionality of CS5/6, or those who insist of "free". You do get what you pay for. After making the basic comparison and saying that they are both capable of editing and adjusting image files, there is no contest. CS3/4/5/6 are all far superior to GIMP. ...but GIMP is "free". I don't know how you can really compare Photoshop with GIMP. You can't. It's horses for courses. Yup! Anyone who has used both will tell you that GIMP is extremely limited compared to Photoshop, but that's only a problem if you want to go beyond the basic edits. *Even GIMP is over-kill for some people. Undoubtably. Photoshop only becomes superior to GIMP when the user wants to progress to more than GIMP can do. No. It has always been superior. The tools have been there regardless of the user's ability to deal with the program. That's true, but I think you're ignoring the meaning here. *If the user isn't aware of what the tool can do, and doesn't get training on the use of the tool, it's as if the tool isn't there. I think that if some malware went out to all Photoshop users that crippled every function in Photoshop that is not present in GIMP, that 90-some percent of the users would be able to do exactly what they're doing now. *(Professionals excluded) The same can be said for dslrs. *Sneak in and superglue the cameras to the AUTO setting and a majority of users would be producing the same output they were when using A,S,P, and M...if they ever did. Unlikely what ifs. I thought you might have got my point. I'm not talking about you, Duck. *You're in the 10% because you understand and use the tools in Photoshop. I have made my attempt at GIMP and found it lacking for me. Others might find it adequate, but those who tout it as a PS replacement are delusional. There is no comparison. It's a replacement for the people who use just the tools in Photoshop that are present in GIMP. *There are an awful lot of people in that group. *That's my point. ...but it can edit and adjust image files, and most importantly for many, it is free, and open source for the Linux crowd. ...and the last time I used "Auto" on a DSLR was the first week I had my D70 some time in 2004. Again, this isn't about you. OK! OK! I get it. I was just pushing the envelope a little bit. Of course my D300S doesn't have an "Auto" mode, Just "P", "A", "S", & "M", and those are selected via the rear command wheel. ....and not one "scene" mode to be found anywhere. Uhm! Why isn't P, with auto WB the same as an auto mode? -- Peter P is "Professional" mode :-). |
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On Aug 28, 6:43*pm, Alan Browne
wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; -- "C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!". * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-John Keating. The best deals of the year, for the last several years have been on Black Friday. That's what I'm waiting for to upgrade to LR4 & CS6. I'll be sorely disappointed if that doesn't work out, but I have high hopes, especially with the current economy. |
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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
In article 2012082920150020094-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
says... On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; That's nuthin! I got an offer for CS 6 for $300! Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-( US$ ????? If so why? Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186 which is US$1270. So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"? I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy there is this note: "What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs? Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total shipping charge at the time you place your order. ? Australia: Shipping is A$25. * ? Brazil: Shipping is US$25. ? Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost. Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil, the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't appear on your order during the checkout process.*" With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it still contains the 'Australian Tariff'. Again, is that for CS6 standard, or CS6 Extended? There is a big difference both in features and price between the two. That US$ 1,096.83 seems in line with US$ 999 for CS6 EX + the AUS tariffs. Making it about a 7.8-10% markup on the US price. If the same is true for CS6 with a US price of $ 699, then I would expect to see a US$ 754-$ 770 (AU$ 728.59-774.05) for the Australian retail. ...but then that might be wishful thinking on my part. ;-) Geez, Duck, just google "adobe australia" and follow the links and you'll get to the order page where you'll find that that price is not for Extended. |
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Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only
In article 2012082920235475629-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
says... On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off. Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center). US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me). Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail; That's nuthin! I got an offer for CS 6 for $300! Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-( US$ ????? If so why? Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186 which is US$1270. So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"? I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy there is this note: "What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs? Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total shipping charge at the time you place your order. ? Australia: Shipping is A$25. * ? Brazil: Shipping is US$25. ? Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost. Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil, the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't appear on your order during the checkout process.*" With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it still contains the 'Australian Tariff'. Would you be able to hide your physical location behind a gmail address? Then use one of our physical US addresses, preferably one of the Texas brethren as I have a 7.25% California sales tax to deal with, for drop shipping. I am not sure of the Sales tax issue in Florida. You might even be able to get one of us to buy it via Amazon and have it shipped as a gift. He can buy from Amazon US directly you know, assuming he has a credit card that they accept. I've bought stuff from Amazxon UK that was not available from Amazon US. They won't lie about the contents of the package though. |
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