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Black&White photo techniques
I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White
techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? |
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Black&White photo techniques
"Hoshisato" wrote: I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? Although it's for film, I found "The Zone System for 35mm Photographers" useful because it has very good descriptions and examples (although the photographic reproduction leaves a lot to be desired) of what the different zones are used for. I've just ordered a stack of books from Amazon on this subject, but they won't be here for a week, and it'll take me some time to figure out if they're any good. Edge of Darkness: The Art... $19.77 1 $19.77 Elements of Black and Whit... $20.37 1 $20.37 Digital Black & White Phot... $16.99 1 $16.99 David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan |
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Hoshisato wrote:
I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? In my opinion the best books on B&W are those written by Ansel Adams. He wrote a series of about five books. He is the father of the Zone system. His info would be somewhat dated, so I would suggest a modern "zone system" book after you read the Adams works. Adam's books are short, but packed with info. EJ in NJ |
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On 3 Aug 2006 01:54:04 -0700, "Hoshisato" wrote:
I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? A few suggestions -- not about "basic photography" but about using digital methods to make black and white prints: 1. Dan Margulis has written the books titled "Professional Photoshop x" where x= the current Photoshop version. (IOW, there are nearly as many versions of Dan's book as there are PS/CS versions.) In any case, there is always a chapter or two on duotones and on pulling the best possible grayscale image out of an RGB image. For your purposes, the info in that chapter will be worth the cost of the book. 2. Look up Roy Harrington, and QuadTone RIP. Also look up Jon Cone and Piezography. www.harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html www.inkjetmall.com/ 3. Join the Yahoo group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ 4. Dan Burkholder was a "pioneer" in printing from digitally-printed internegatives onto real photo paper. Get more info at www.danburkholder.com He's published a couple of books. rafe b www.terrapinphoto.com |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:54:04 -0700, Hoshisato wrote:
I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? Why not try it and develop your own techniques? -- Neil Delete l to reply |
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Neil Ellwood wrote: On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:54:04 -0700, Hoshisato wrote: I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? Why not try it and develop your own techniques? -- Neil Delete l to reply Great idea! Spend a lifetime trying to figure out what is already known, instead of building on the knowledge of geniuses like Adams. Actually, I think that developing your own techniques is a great idea, AFTER you've studied the masters. I don't know if Neil is one of those people who think you don't have to understand the work done before you, you can just jump in and be better than Adams because you're so damn good. There seem to be a great many people around today who think you can be great at something without studying what's been done by previous experts who spent a lifetime learning to get to that level. "Don't do the work, just jump in and be great!" I think they lack the discipline to study and learn from others. I say, read some of the books recommended here, and try things on your own. Don't be limited by what they've done, but dont' ignore it either. I like Sir Issac Newton's quote, "If I have seen farther than others, it's because I have stood on the shoulders of giants". |
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Hoshisato wrote: I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. do you mean 35mm? Typo? Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? First off, consider composition - regardless of digital or 35mm film, B+W or color - composition is composition. Now B+W comp is even harder 'cause you need to see and think in B+W. So get a comp book - I have a great one - can't remember the name - front cover is mainly white with a photo of a bird and the sun - break up into 6 quadrants - great book. Other than that - can't help you. But when I need a book on a subject - go to Borders or B&N - and I'll pull 10 books over to a table and check them all out - table of contents, glossary or not, introduction, read parts of chapters - I end up getting the one that makes most sense to me and has the most info to offer. Lets face it, we all think and learn differently. If you buy a book with great info, but you can stand the writing style or presentation on info by the author, then you're not going to get as much out of it as a writier whose words knock you off you feet. Jim |
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salgud wrote:
Neil Ellwood wrote: On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:54:04 -0700, Hoshisato wrote: I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? Why not try it and develop your own techniques? -- Neil Delete l to reply Great idea! Spend a lifetime trying to figure out what is already known, instead of building on the knowledge of geniuses like Adams. Which books did Adams write on B&W photography using a DSLR? And FWIW, I expect Neil's answer came closer to what Adams himself would have recommended. |
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no_name wrote in news:RulBg.102807$R26.43053
@tornado.southeast.rr.com: salgud wrote: Neil Ellwood wrote: On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:54:04 -0700, Hoshisato wrote: I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? Why not try it and develop your own techniques? -- Neil Delete l to reply Great idea! Spend a lifetime trying to figure out what is already known, instead of building on the knowledge of geniuses like Adams. Which books did Adams write on B&W photography using a DSLR? And FWIW, I expect Neil's answer came closer to what Adams himself would have recommended. Think of the time he could have saved writing those books if he'd realized that sooner. - Al. -- To reply, insert dash in address to match domain below Online photo gallery at www.wading-in.net |
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Black&White photo techniques
Al Denelsbeck wrote:
no_name wrote in news:RulBg.102807$R26.43053 @tornado.southeast.rr.com: salgud wrote: Neil Ellwood wrote: On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:54:04 -0700, Hoshisato wrote: I'm looking for websites or book recommendations for Black&White techniques either taken by a DSLR or 36mm film. The books and webpages I find always focus on darkroom techniques and that is not what I'm after as I scan the negatives and handle them digitally. Something like "Understanding Exposu How to Shoot Great Photographs with a Film or Digital Camera" by Bryan Peterson but then for Black&White. Any ideas? Why not try it and develop your own techniques? -- Neil Delete l to reply Great idea! Spend a lifetime trying to figure out what is already known, instead of building on the knowledge of geniuses like Adams. Which books did Adams write on B&W photography using a DSLR? And FWIW, I expect Neil's answer came closer to what Adams himself would have recommended. Think of the time he could have saved writing those books if he'd realized that sooner. - Al. The 'develop your own technique' comes from Adams. |
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