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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:18:29 AM MST, "Alan Browne"
wrote: On 2020-09-06 13:10, Snit wrote: On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:05:29 AM MST, "Shadow" wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:50:17 +0100, David_B wrote: THIS item was most interesting too:- "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. I've enabled it in the past but hardly ever used it. At one point there were some things I wanted to experiment with and via root was the only way to configure those things. Amongst them setting the time server (IIRC) to a local server vice the Apple server. And once upon a time played with the VM settings in detail (including disabling VM and other things). Could never find a sudo means to do those at the time. It's no longer enabled on this Mac. After I did a clean install a few years ago I never bothered. I have never enabled it... just not had the need or desire. While there is nothing wrong with some fiddling with it, for most they have no need to even know it exists, and to fiddle with it would be unwise. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
In article , Snit
wrote: "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. root mode, mentioned above, is not the same as the root account and not something apple would have any reason to mention for obvious reasons. however, for the root account, apple has a lot to say. start he https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204012 https://support.apple.com/guide/dire...he-root-user-d irub32398f1/mac This is pretty common knowledge among techie folks who use Macs. apparently not. |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:39:37 AM MST, "nospam" wrote:
In article , Snit wrote: "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. root mode, mentioned above, is not the same as the root account and not something apple would have any reason to mention for obvious reasons. however, for the root account, apple has a lot to say. start he https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204012 https://support.apple.com/guide/directory-utility/about-the-root-user-dirub32398f1/mac Right: not things they really promote or make easy for the general user. They do not even have the root account enabled by default. The second link you point to really drives my point home: ----- The root user is disabled by default. Although you can enable it, it’s recommended that you avoid logging into a Mac as the root user, either locally or remotely. Instead, use the sudo command-line tool to perform tasks that require root user privileges. You can restrict access to sudo by adding users to the /private/etc/sudoers file. WARNING: Use extreme caution if you log in as the root user. You can lose data, damage the system by moving or deleting critical files, or cause other problems that can only be solved by reinstalling macOS. If you log in as the root user, always log out after completing your task, log in as an administrator, then disable the root user. ----- I certainly did not mean that they do not offer information on the Root account (or sudo for that matter). They most certainly do. But they do not speak of it in places where general users are likely to see it, and they do not promote it for the general public. Instead of enabling root, by the way, it is generally better to use sudo in the command line (as they note in what you point to), though of course it depends on what you are seeking to do. This is pretty common knowledge among techie folks who use Macs. apparently not. Fair enough -- but good to see you did some research to learn about it and double check what I was telling you. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
In article , Snit
wrote: "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. root mode, mentioned above, is not the same as the root account and not something apple would have any reason to mention for obvious reasons. however, for the root account, apple has a lot to say. start he https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204012 https://support.apple.com/guide/dire...oot-user-dirub 32398f1/mac Right: not things they really promote or make easy for the general user. false. They do not even have the root account enabled by default. no reason why it should be and apple isn't the only one to do so. https://www.ubuntu18.com/ubuntu-enable-root/ Ubuntu does not enable the root account during installation and you will not be asked to create a root password. Instead, you will create a normal user account with sudo privileges. This user can run sudo command to perform administrative tasks. what's most notable is that you are refusing to admit you do not understand root mode as mentioned in the original quote and resorting to your usual goalpost movement, twisting, trolling and condescending bull****. |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer harddrive?
On 06/09/2020 18:10, Snit wrote:
On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:05:29 AM MST, "Shadow" wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:50:17 +0100, David_B wrote: THIS item was most interesting too:- "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. This is pretty common knowledge among techie folks who use Macs. My 'best' iMac has millions of files from all manner of computers going back to the 1980s and which have been carried forward over the years. Some of them have 'no entry' signs and I've often wondered if there was a way to look inside them. Now, at last, I know HOW I can do that! :-) Apple support told me there was no way that I could! |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
On Sep 6, 2020 at 1:27:41 PM MST, "nospam" wrote:
In article , Snit wrote: "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. root mode, mentioned above, is not the same as the root account and not something apple would have any reason to mention for obvious reasons. however, for the root account, apple has a lot to say. start he https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204012 https://support.apple.com/guide/directory-utility/about-the-root-user-dirub32398f1/mac Right: not things they really promote or make easy for the general user. false. What you snipped: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Right: not things they really promote or make easy for the general user. They do not even have the root account enabled by default. The second link you point to really drives my point home: ----- The root user is disabled by default. Although you can enable it, it’s recommended that you avoid logging into a Mac as the root user, either locally or remotely. Instead, use the sudo command-line tool to perform tasks that require root user privileges. You can restrict access to sudo by adding users to the /private/etc/sudoers file. WARNING: Use extreme caution if you log in as the root user. You can lose data, damage the system by moving or deleting critical files, or cause other problems that can only be solved by reinstalling macOS. If you log in as the root user, always log out after completing your task, log in as an administrator, then disable the root user. ----- I certainly did not mean that they do not offer information on the Root account (or sudo for that matter). They most certainly do. But they do not speak of it in places where general users are likely to see it, and they do not promote it for the general public. Instead of enabling root, by the way, it is generally better to use sudo in the command line (as they note in what you point to), though of course it depends on what you are seeking to do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- They do not even have the root account enabled by default. no reason why it should be and apple isn't the only one to do so. Agreed... in fact it was pretty much my point (though I did not mention others). Did you think someone said otherwise? https://www.ubuntu18.com/ubuntu-enable-root/ Ubuntu does not enable the root account during installation and you will not be asked to create a root password. Instead, you will create a normal user account with sudo privileges. This user can run sudo command to perform administrative tasks. .... -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer harddrive?
On 2020-09-06 13:36, Snit wrote:
On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:18:29 AM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote: On 2020-09-06 13:10, Snit wrote: On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:05:29 AM MST, "Shadow" wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:50:17 +0100, David_B wrote: THIS item was most interesting too:- "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. I've enabled it in the past but hardly ever used it. At one point there were some things I wanted to experiment with and via root was the only way to configure those things. Amongst them setting the time server (IIRC) to a local server vice the Apple server. And once upon a time played with the VM settings in detail (including disabling VM and other things). Could never find a sudo means to do those at the time. It's no longer enabled on this Mac. After I did a clean install a few years ago I never bothered. I have never enabled it... just not had the need or desire. While there is nothing wrong with some fiddling with it, for most they have no need to even know it exists, and to fiddle with it would be unwise. Depends on your skill set and willingness to risk having to do a major re-install. -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
On Sep 6, 2020 at 1:35:09 PM MST, "David_B"
wrote: On 06/09/2020 18:10, Snit wrote: On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:05:29 AM MST, "Shadow" wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:50:17 +0100, David_B wrote: THIS item was most interesting too:- "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. This is pretty common knowledge among techie folks who use Macs. My 'best' iMac has millions of files from all manner of computers going back to the 1980s and which have been carried forward over the years. Some of them have 'no entry' signs and I've often wondered if there was a way to look inside them. Now, at last, I know HOW I can do that! :-) Apple support told me there was no way that I could! What do you mean by no entry? That Apple's search does not find them well? I use EasyFind for those. It is not in the App store that I see but it is freewa https://www.devontechnologies.com/apps/freeware -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
On Sep 6, 2020 at 2:32:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne"
wrote: On 2020-09-06 13:36, Snit wrote: On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:18:29 AM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote: On 2020-09-06 13:10, Snit wrote: On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:05:29 AM MST, "Shadow" wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:50:17 +0100, David_B wrote: THIS item was most interesting too:- "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. I've enabled it in the past but hardly ever used it. At one point there were some things I wanted to experiment with and via root was the only way to configure those things. Amongst them setting the time server (IIRC) to a local server vice the Apple server. And once upon a time played with the VM settings in detail (including disabling VM and other things). Could never find a sudo means to do those at the time. It's no longer enabled on this Mac. After I did a clean install a few years ago I never bothered. I have never enabled it... just not had the need or desire. While there is nothing wrong with some fiddling with it, for most they have no need to even know it exists, and to fiddle with it would be unwise. Depends on your skill set and willingness to risk having to do a major re-install. Sure. For me just not worth it, and for users who are not that knowledgable I would not suggest it, but esp. if you have an older "play" machine and are just fiddling it makes sense. And if you want to do something I do not suggest that is also fine... not like I am gonna hound people over it, or even care. I don't get the "religious wars" over OSs, and this would be even more trivial. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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What is the easiest way to find all images on a computer hard drive?
On 06/09/2020 22:35, Snit wrote:
On Sep 6, 2020 at 1:35:09 PM MST, "David_B" wrote: On 06/09/2020 18:10, Snit wrote: On Sep 6, 2020 at 10:05:29 AM MST, "Shadow" wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:50:17 +0100, David_B wrote: THIS item was most interesting too:- "The root mode is mainly useful when the Mac has multiple user accounts configured and you like to find files in every user's private folders. Without the root mode, you won't get to look at other users' files." You've been using a Mac for a decade and you didn't know that? Because Apple does not speak much of the root account... for most users it is not needed and not recommended to EVER use, no less enable. This is pretty common knowledge among techie folks who use Macs. My 'best' iMac has millions of files from all manner of computers going back to the 1980s and which have been carried forward over the years. Some of them have 'no entry' signs and I've often wondered if there was a way to look inside them. Now, at last, I know HOW I can do that! :-) Apple support told me there was no way that I could! What do you mean by no entry? That Apple's search does not find them well? I use EasyFind for those. Hey! Sorry to confuse! This is the sign I mean https://farm-signs.co.uk/no-entry-sign-543006793 This helps explain:- https://www.mac-forums.com/threads/r...-folder.74681/ It is not in the App store that I see but it is freewa https://www.devontechnologies.com/apps/freeware I've used EasyFind for many years - it is VERY useful! :-) |
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