Where will B&W be in 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 .... years

jjs wrote:
"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote in message
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Forecast the future of B&W.
Where do you think it will be in:
5 years?
10 years?
20 years?
50 years?

Bored to death, Nicholas?

Where are you going to be in 5,10,20,50?

The average life span in the West nearly doubled between 1900 and 2000. Some
scientists are predicting not only a doubling again in the human life but
possibly tripling or quadrupling.

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/immortality.htm

In article , "jimmy"
wrote:

I agree with a previous poster that B&W film, paper and chemicals will still
be around as an art form for the foreseeable future. Widely available -
no - but available.

Yes & it may mean a commitment of more than an occasional 25 sheet pack
of sample paper on some people's part.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:23:46 GMT, Gregory Blank
wrote:

In article 764Zd.2808$hA3.1423@trnddc09,
"Shelley" wrote:

I think black and white prints will be around for at least 100 years,
assuming the prints are made on an Epson pro printer using Ultrachrome inks
and any good cotton rag paper, if they're properly stored.

LOL.


You have evidence to the contrary?


rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com

"Alan Smithee" wrote in message
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jjs wrote:

Where are you going to be in 5,10,20,50?
[...]
http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/immortality.htm

Man, the USA Prez better get the social security thing in control, eh? Me,
I'm too old to be of the longevity thing.

Gregory Blank wrote:

In article ,
"death skunk five" wrote:

prints will last up to 500years.

They already do if you print using platinum and acid free
paper.


According to the Image Permanence Institute 500 years
is an acceptable estimate for an archivally processed
and selenium toned gelatin silver print as well.

Gregory Blank wrote:

In article , "jimmy"
wrote:

I agree with a previous poster that B&W film, paper and chemicals will still
be around as an art form for the foreseeable future. Widely available -
no - but available.

Yes & it may mean a commitment of more than an occasional 25 sheet pack
of sample paper on some people's part.

Uh...I already can't buy anything less than a 50 sheet
seagull in 16x20 at $150+. And I still buy it.

In article ,
Tom Phillips wrote:

Uh...I already can't buy anything less than a 50 sheet
seagull in 16x20 at $150+. And I still buy it.

$150 is what I paid for a box of Elite in 1992. I guess thats still a
good price although I have been getting Forte direct from the distributer
for a lot cheaper.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

In article ,
rafe bustin wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:23:46 GMT, Gregory Blank
wrote:

In article 764Zd.2808$hA3.1423@trnddc09,
"Shelley" wrote:

I think black and white prints will be around for at least 100 years,
assuming the prints are made on an Epson pro printer using Ultrachrome inks
and any good cotton rag paper, if they're properly stored.

LOL.


You have evidence to the contrary?

Lets just say I am skeptical. I also think that the defined term
"properly stored" leaves a huge vast unknown yawning hole
which a lot of people can potential fall,..... but that is nothing
new to photo in general.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:40:05 GMT, Gregory Blank
wrote:

In article ,
rafe bustin wrote:

You have evidence to the contrary?

Lets just say I am skeptical. I also think that the defined term
"properly stored" leaves a huge vast unknown yawning hole
which a lot of people can potential fall,..... but that is nothing
new to photo in general.


The storage issue is critical but completely common
between the two competing technologies, right?

Seriously though... carbon pigment inks on cotton rag...
what's to limit the longevity? Cave paintings made
with charcoal have lasted how long? I'd be more
worried about the cotton than the ink.


rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com

Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
Forecast the future of B&W.

Where do you think it will be in:

5 years?

10 years?

20 years?

50 years?

If there is enough participation the average of the
predictions often turns out to be pretty accurate.


The subject of more meaningless forecasts :-)