Why do cameras lie about their MPs?

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

In article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP.
That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and
1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.

no, due to sampling theory.

This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64
inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to
photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

what smudge? do you mean the aliasing on the bottom?

In article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass,
says...

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

Hmmmm... can you post the original out of camera JPEG?

At the link up there you just have a 182 pixel wide crop.
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On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass):

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

That is a 903% crop that can only be a pixelated mess. add to that the tiny piece of the image you have shared seems to be out of focus.

Show the full image, or if you want to show a cropped area use a 1:1 100% crop.

....and while I am a Fujifilm user that S1000fd is a 12 year old discontinued camera with a 1/ 2.3� sensor that was not exactly a good camera in 2008. When it was new it would struggle to deliver acceptable performance. It is a piece of junk

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Regards,
Savageduck

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:48:40 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass):

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

That is a 903% crop that can only be a pixelated mess. add to that the tiny piece of the image you have shared seems to be out of focus.

Show the full image, or if you want to show a cropped area use a 1:1 100% crop.

...and while I am a Fujifilm user that S1000fd is a 12 year old discontinued camera with a 1/ 2.3� sensor that was not exactly a good camera in 2008. When it was new it would struggle to deliver acceptable performance. It is a piece of junk

I've taken a bunch of photos to attempt 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10MP, and 8 is clear enough to see the lines. So they only 20% ripped me off.

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:45:49 -0000, Alfred Molon wrote:

In article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass,
says...

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

Hmmmm... can you post the original out of camera JPEG?

At the link up there you just have a 182 pixel wide crop.

The important part, where you cannot make out the 1/64" lines.

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0toatnk9wdg98l@glass):

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:48:40 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass):

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

That is a 903% crop that can only be a pixelated mess. add to that the tiny piece of the image you have shared seems to be out of focus.

Show the full image, or if you want to show a cropped area use a 1:1 100% crop.

...and while I am a Fujifilm user that S1000fd is a 12 year old discontinued camera with a 1/ 2.3� sensor that was not exactly a good camera in 2008. When it was new it would struggle to deliver acceptable performance. It is a piece of junk

I've taken a bunch of photos to attempt 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10MP, and 8 is clear enough to see the lines. So they only 20% ripped me off.

When did you buy it, and how much did you pay?

You could probably buy it use off ebay for less than $50, and even that is too much.

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Regards,
Savageduck

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 19:38:18 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0toatnk9wdg98l@glass):

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:48:40 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass):

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

That is a 903% crop that can only be a pixelated mess. add to that the tiny piece of the image you have shared seems to be out of focus.

Show the full image, or if you want to show a cropped area use a 1:1 100% crop.

...and while I am a Fujifilm user that S1000fd is a 12 year old discontinued camera with a 1/ 2.3� sensor that was not exactly a good camera in 2008. When it was new it would struggle to deliver acceptable performance. It is a piece of junk

I've taken a bunch of photos to attempt 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10MP, and 8 is clear enough to see the lines. So they only 20% ripped me off.

When did you buy it, and how much did you pay?

I've had it for years. I've been told modern Fujis are better, but the Canon I had before the Fuji claimed 6MP and was precisely that. But that was a pro DSLR costing £2000 at the time including two lenses. 10 snaps per second was bloody useful at motor racing events.

You could probably buy it use off ebay for less than $50, and even that is too much.

I just bought a "5MP webcam" for £6 on Ebay. It literally only does 640*480, it doesn't even try to go higher! The output to the computer is actually 640*480. I complained and got 75% refund, so it cost me £1.50 :-) You can get really cheap stuff from China if you argue with them.

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tof9pnhwdg98l@glass):

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 19:38:18 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0toatnk9wdg98l@glass):

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:48:40 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass):

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

That is a 903% crop that can only be a pixelated mess. add to that the tiny piece of the image you have shared seems to be out of focus.

Show the full image, or if you want to show a cropped area use a 1:1 100% crop.

...and while I am a Fujifilm user that S1000fd is a 12 year old discontinued camera with a 1/ 2.3� sensor that was not exactly a good camera in 2008. When it was new it would struggle to deliver acceptable performance. It is a piece of junk

I've taken a bunch of photos to attempt 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10MP, and 8 is clear enough to see the lines. So they only 20% ripped me off.

When did you buy it, and how much did you pay?

I've had it for years. I've been told modern Fujis are better,

They are. These days Fuji makes great cameras. I switched from Nikon to Fujifilm 5 years ago, now I have 4 Fuji mirrorless cameras, and 8 very good Fuji lenses.

but the Canon I had before the Fuji claimed 6MP and was precisely that. But that was a pro DSLR costing £2000 at the time including two lenses. 10 snaps per second was bloody useful at motor racing events.

You could probably buy it use off ebay for less than $50, and even that is too much.

I just bought a "5MP webcam" for £6 on Ebay. It literally only does 640*480, it doesn't even try to go higher! The output to the computer is actually 640*480. I complained and got 75% refund, so it cost me £1.50 :-) You can get really cheap stuff from China if you argue with them.

They gave you the refund as the easiest way to resolve your complaint.

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Regards,
Savageduck

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 20:39:02 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tof9pnhwdg98l@glass):

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 19:38:18 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0toatnk9wdg98l@glass):

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:48:40 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 6, 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0tn6310jwdg98l@glass):

I have a Fuji Finepix S1000fd. It states clearly on the case that it's 10MP. That's 3648x2736.
So it should be able to interpolate something with 1824 vertical lines and 1824 vertical spaces across the whole image.
This is part of a picture of a ruler, showing (or trying to show) the 1/64 inch lines, the entire photo was 28.5" across, giving 1824 1/64" lines to photograph, or 3648 lines and spaces.
So why is it just a smudge?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswisgubcl...0test.jpg?dl=0

That is a 903% crop that can only be a pixelated mess. add to that the tiny piece of the image you have shared seems to be out of focus..

Show the full image, or if you want to show a cropped area use a 1:1 100% crop.

...and while I am a Fujifilm user that S1000fd is a 12 year old discontinued camera with a 1/ 2.3� sensor that was not exactly a good camera in 2008. When it was new it would struggle to deliver acceptable performance. It is a piece of junk

I've taken a bunch of photos to attempt 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10MP, and 8 is clear enough to see the lines. So they only 20% ripped me off.

When did you buy it, and how much did you pay?

I've had it for years. I've been told modern Fujis are better,

They are. These days Fuji makes great cameras. I switched from Nikon to Fujifilm 5 years ago, now I have 4 Fuji mirrorless cameras, and 8 very good Fuji lenses.

I rented a Nikon DSLR once and broke it, costing £200 in repairs. The rental shop should have warned me it had a flimsy reverse thread on the lens, and if you turned it the assumed clockwise direction, it snapped the focus sensor inside the body.

but the Canon I had before the Fuji claimed 6MP and was precisely that. But that was a pro DSLR costing £2000 at the time including two lenses. 10 snaps per second was bloody useful at motor racing events.

You could probably buy it use off ebay for less than $50, and even that is too much.

I just bought a "5MP webcam" for £6 on Ebay. It literally only does 640*480, it doesn't even try to go higher! The output to the computer is actually 640*480. I complained and got 75% refund, so it cost me £1.50 :-) You can get really cheap stuff from China if you argue with them.

They gave you the refund as the easiest way to resolve your complaint.

Most do. If they don't they get reported to Ebay. I've had several accounts deleted. To stay in business they must have a lot of customers who just accept the **** they receive. For crying out loud you can buy a Li Ion AA battery quoted at 2500mAh. The largest capacity I've seen genuine is Panasonic at 800 or 1000. The cheap ones are actually 300, I measured them. Those I got completely free. They lasted 9 months, probably getting 40 charging cycles in that time.