Absolute beginner needs advivce

Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: Frank Pittel wrote in message ...
: This type of stupidity is why scarpitti has no credibility in this or any other
: newsgroup. I'm sure he's never heard about press cameras or Weegee.


: They're not made anymore, sonny. Nor are press films. Remember Royal
: Pan? Gone. Arrow Pan? Gone. Super Panchro Press Type B? Gone.

I would rather use a high quality modern film such as Tmax100 or Tmax400 others
might prefer Tri-x.

: And I'm sure you can stroll into your local camera shop and find NEW
: Graflexes.

Don't need to. There are a lot high quality used ones available. If for some
idiotic reason I would only want to use a new camera I can go into a local
camera store and buy a horseman or Toyo press camera. You need to expand
your horizons a little and look past the brand name. There's a whole world
beyond leica and hasselblad.

: Weegee? I saw his stuff when I was a kid, before you even HEARD of
: silver halides.

It's good to see that you're backing off of your idiotic claim that spontaneity
is out of the question with LF photography.


: WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHERS.

: There are LOTS of other things to photograph that are underdone,
: Frank:

: Her are some I suggest YOU try:

: The openings of active volcanos.

: Lava flows.

: Mud slides.

: Hurricanes.

: Terrorist, Mafia, and KKK meetings.

: Nuclear Tests.

All real good ideas. Why don't you give some of them a try.



:
:
: Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: : "Bert" wrote in message ...
: : Hi,
: :
: : I've just discovered your newsgroup, so here goes!
: :
: : I want to move up from 35mm / digital because for me quality of final image
: : is important.
:
: : What kind of photography is important to you? That's really the
: : question. You can get really high quality images with 4 x 5. but
: : spontaneity is out of the question. There are no motorized 4 x 5
: : cameras (except large roll aerial cameras).
:
: : I'm unsure wether to go to 6x6 or right into 5x4 (shooting
: : mainly ladscapes).
:
:
: : You may tire of landscapes before you know it. It's overdone, anyway.
: : And often poorly.
:
: : I've seen the quality you can get from 5x4 (fantastic),
: : but I have some concerns and questions. If anyone can advise or maybe there
: : is a 'beginners website', a link of two would be appreciated. I'd add that I
: : like to take my time over taking a photograph, so setting up and time isn't
: : a problem.
: :
: : Here are some of my questions:
: :
: : Cost is not an issue, and I appreciate finest engineering / optical quality,
: : so recommendations for suitable cameras please (Ebony? Hasselblad - is the
: : SWC worth considering?)
: :
: : How much 'better' is 5x4" over top quality 6x6cm (typically I'd want
: : enlargements to A2/A1)
: :
: : What's the best lens available (wide-angle)?
: :
: : I've been told you need to take the lenses apart to mount on the board, is
: : this difficult or can it be done by the dealer?
: :
: : Is the fuji quickload system worth considering?
: :
: : How do you develop the film (!) - how easy/difficult is it compared to
: : processing 35mm?
: :
: : On a picture by picture basis, how much does it cost on average to process
: : and print the relative formats?
: :
: :
: : I have a hundred more questions!
: :
: : Any help or comments appreciated.
: :
: : Regards
: :
: : Steve

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Frank Pittel wrote:



: WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHERS.

: There are LOTS of other things to photograph that are underdone,
: Frank:

: Her are some I suggest YOU try:

: The openings of active volcanos.

: Lava flows.

: Mud slides.

: Hurricanes.

: Terrorist, Mafia, and KKK meetings.

: Nuclear Tests.

All real good ideas. Why don't you give some of them a try.



All of his suggestions except for three are landscapes.

Nick

"Michael Scarpitti" wrote in message
m...
Frank Pittel wrote in message
...
This type of stupidity is why scarpitti has no credibility in this or any
other
newsgroup. I'm sure he's never heard about press cameras or Weegee.

They're not made anymore, sonny. Nor are press films. Remember Royal
Pan? Gone. Arrow Pan? Gone. Super Panchro Press Type B? Gone.

Press cameras aren't made anymore? You had better tell Linhof.

"Frank Pittel" wrote in message
...
Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: Frank Pittel wrote in message
...
: This type of stupidity is why scarpitti has no credibility in this or
any other
: newsgroup. I'm sure he's never heard about press cameras or Weegee.

: They're not made anymore, sonny. Nor are press films. Remember Royal
: Pan? Gone. Arrow Pan? Gone. Super Panchro Press Type B? Gone.

Ah, there's plenty of the film available in 4x5. Scarpitti just doesn't know
of it because he's a 35mm maven.

Well I guess we have finally won, Michael is advocating
landscape photography,...whats next photo vests & beards
for all? ;-)

In article ,
Nick Zentena wrote:

Frank Pittel wrote:



: WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHERS.

: There are LOTS of other things to photograph that are underdone,
: Frank:

: Her are some I suggest YOU try:

: The openings of active volcanos.

: Lava flows.

: Mud slides.

: Hurricanes.

: Terrorist, Mafia, and KKK meetings.

: Nuclear Tests.

All real good ideas. Why don't you give some of them a try.



All of his suggestions except for three are landscapes.

Nick

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or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
...
Well I guess we have finally won, Michael is advocating
landscape photography,...whats next photo vests & beards
for all? ;-)

And baldness. Let's not forget baldness.

"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
...
Well I guess we have finally won, Michael is advocating
landscape photography,...whats next photo vests & beards
for all? ;-)

And baldness. Let's not forget baldness.

At this point I don't know whether its personal preference or a survival
instinct for me. (Started shaving the whole thing about two years ago).
Hides the grey!!!

Started losing my hair in high school "noticeably" same thing happened to
my granddad. So I've been used to it for quite awhile. Nothing is
farther from my intent than looking like Ansel "god rest his merry
soul". When my eye brows turn white I am going to get and earring
and grow a long goatee.


In article ,
"jjs" wrote:

"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
...
Well I guess we have finally won, Michael is advocating
landscape photography,...whats next photo vests & beards
for all? ;-)

And baldness. Let's not forget baldness.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Nick Zentena wrote in message ...
Frank Pittel wrote:



: WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHERS.

: There are LOTS of other things to photograph that are underdone,
: Frank:

: Her are some I suggest YOU try:

: The openings of active volcanos.

: Lava flows.

: Mud slides.

: Hurricanes.

: Terrorist, Mafia, and KKK meetings.

: Nuclear Tests.

All real good ideas. Why don't you give some of them a try.



All of his suggestions except for three are landscapes.

Not exactly.



Nick

Nick Zentena wrote in message ...
Frank Pittel wrote:



: WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHERS.

: There are LOTS of other things to photograph that are underdone,
: Frank:

: Her are some I suggest YOU try:

: The openings of active volcanos.

: Lava flows.

: Mud slides.

: Hurricanes.

: Terrorist, Mafia, and KKK meetings.

: Nuclear Tests.

All real good ideas. Why don't you give some of them a try.



All of his suggestions except for three are landscapes.

Not exactly.



Nick