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April 5th 05, 05:29 AM
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Mr.Bolshoy Huy wrote:
: Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji : DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). : I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. : I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing : film. : Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him replace : the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the whole : day on just one card(which will be reused later). : Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the camera(lens, : etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. : Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way : once. : I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. : Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film? No. -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- 
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April 5th 05, 05:29 AM
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Mr.Bolshoy Huy wrote:
: Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji : DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). : I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. : I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing : film. : Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him replace : the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the whole : day on just one card(which will be reused later). : Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the camera(lens, : etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. : Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way : once. : I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. : Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film? No. -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you -------------------
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#13
April 5th 05, 05:29 AM
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Scott W wrote:
: Mr.Bolshoy Huy wrote: : Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji : DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). : : I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. : : I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing : film. : Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him : replace : the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the : whole : day on just one card(which will be reused later). : : Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the : camera(lens, : etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. : : Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way : once. : : I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. : Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film? : Forgive me but this post seems like less like a question and more like : a jab at people who use film. It is one thing to try and have a : serious discussion about film vs. digital but you post seem more to be : asking "why in the world would anyone still be using film?". : I may be miss reading your post and if I am a apologize, but to me it : seems that you are challenging people as to why they use film. : There are any number of reasons to use film, If you want the speed of : an SLR but don't want to pay the price of an DSLR then you are going : to be stuck with film, at least for a while. Each person has to make : their own decision as to when it makes sense to go digital, given that : the prices are falling and will continue to fall it would be hard to : fault someone for holding off to get a better deal. : If you are at all happy with a P&S film camera then you will likely be : happy with a P&S digital as well. What you do in large part depends on : what you are going to do with your photos. For myself I want every : photo I have on my computer, this means scanning negatives from film : shots. : Using a good 35mm camera with a good low ISO film and scanning the : photos can produce good images, but at a high cost. For myself the : time was a large factor, then there was the scratches the processor : always seemed to get on the negatives. I am also not the most : organized person so having the digital photos date stamped is a big : help. : But if you don't care about having your photos on your computer this : might not matter as much, clearly there are those in this group who : have no great interest in having their photos on their computers. : Please keep in mind that just because you don't want to use film does : not mean that others might not. If you really are interested in going : digital, and not just tweaking the film guys, then I suggest that you : do a lot of research on just what kind of digital camera would suit : your needs. When you find a camera that you think you would like you : should ask yourself if you will likely take enough photos with it in : the next two to three years for it to be worth it, because in two to : three years you will likely want a newer model. : Scott More likely then not it's a troll. -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you -------------------
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#14
April 5th 05, 05:29 AM
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Scott W wrote:
: Mr.Bolshoy Huy wrote: : Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji : DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). : : I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. : : I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing : film. : Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him : replace : the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the : whole : day on just one card(which will be reused later). : : Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the : camera(lens, : etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. : : Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way : once. : : I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. : Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film? : Forgive me but this post seems like less like a question and more like : a jab at people who use film. It is one thing to try and have a : serious discussion about film vs. digital but you post seem more to be : asking "why in the world would anyone still be using film?". : I may be miss reading your post and if I am a apologize, but to me it : seems that you are challenging people as to why they use film. : There are any number of reasons to use film, If you want the speed of : an SLR but don't want to pay the price of an DSLR then you are going : to be stuck with film, at least for a while. Each person has to make : their own decision as to when it makes sense to go digital, given that : the prices are falling and will continue to fall it would be hard to : fault someone for holding off to get a better deal. : If you are at all happy with a P&S film camera then you will likely be : happy with a P&S digital as well. What you do in large part depends on : what you are going to do with your photos. For myself I want every : photo I have on my computer, this means scanning negatives from film : shots. : Using a good 35mm camera with a good low ISO film and scanning the : photos can produce good images, but at a high cost. For myself the : time was a large factor, then there was the scratches the processor : always seemed to get on the negatives. I am also not the most : organized person so having the digital photos date stamped is a big : help. : But if you don't care about having your photos on your computer this : might not matter as much, clearly there are those in this group who : have no great interest in having their photos on their computers. : Please keep in mind that just because you don't want to use film does : not mean that others might not. If you really are interested in going : digital, and not just tweaking the film guys, then I suggest that you : do a lot of research on just what kind of digital camera would suit : your needs. When you find a camera that you think you would like you : should ask yourself if you will likely take enough photos with it in : the next two to three years for it to be worth it, because in two to : three years you will likely want a newer model. : Scott More likely then not it's a troll. -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you -------------------
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#15
April 5th 05, 06:43 AM
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Frank Pittel wrote: More likely then not it's a troll. It did have that sound to it, but I thought I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Scott
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#16
April 5th 05, 07:01 AM
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"Frank Pittel" wrote in message ... Scott W wrote: : Mr.Bolshoy Huy wrote: : Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji : DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). : : I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. : : I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing : film. : Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him : replace : the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the : whole : day on just one card(which will be reused later). : : Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the : camera(lens, : etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. : : Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way : once. : : I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. : Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film? : Forgive me but this post seems like less like a question and more like : a jab at people who use film. It is one thing to try and have a : serious discussion about film vs. digital but you post seem more to be : asking "why in the world would anyone still be using film?". : I may be miss reading your post and if I am a apologize, but to me it : seems that you are challenging people as to why they use film. : There are any number of reasons to use film, If you want the speed of : an SLR but don't want to pay the price of an DSLR then you are going : to be stuck with film, at least for a while. Each person has to make : their own decision as to when it makes sense to go digital, given that : the prices are falling and will continue to fall it would be hard to : fault someone for holding off to get a better deal. : If you are at all happy with a P&S film camera then you will likely be : happy with a P&S digital as well. What you do in large part depends on : what you are going to do with your photos. For myself I want every : photo I have on my computer, this means scanning negatives from film : shots. : Using a good 35mm camera with a good low ISO film and scanning the : photos can produce good images, but at a high cost. For myself the : time was a large factor, then there was the scratches the processor : always seemed to get on the negatives. I am also not the most : organized person so having the digital photos date stamped is a big : help. : But if you don't care about having your photos on your computer this : might not matter as much, clearly there are those in this group who : have no great interest in having their photos on their computers. : Please keep in mind that just because you don't want to use film does : not mean that others might not. If you really are interested in going : digital, and not just tweaking the film guys, then I suggest that you : do a lot of research on just what kind of digital camera would suit : your needs. When you find a camera that you think you would like you : should ask yourself if you will likely take enough photos with it in : the next two to three years for it to be worth it, because in two to : three years you will likely want a newer model. : Scott If you like to project color slides, or even enjoy looking at slides with a good loupe, then film is the way to go. Also, if you like to take a few of your slides and have them blown up to 12 x 18 or larger and frame them, then slide film is the way to go. As you say, both mediums have their uses.......
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#17
April 5th 05, 07:01 AM
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"Frank Pittel" wrote in message ... Scott W wrote: : Mr.Bolshoy Huy wrote: : Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji : DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). : : I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. : : I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing : film. : Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him : replace : the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the : whole : day on just one card(which will be reused later). : : Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the : camera(lens, : etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. : : Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way : once. : : I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. : Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film? : Forgive me but this post seems like less like a question and more like : a jab at people who use film. It is one thing to try and have a : serious discussion about film vs. digital but you post seem more to be : asking "why in the world would anyone still be using film?". : I may be miss reading your post and if I am a apologize, but to me it : seems that you are challenging people as to why they use film. : There are any number of reasons to use film, If you want the speed of : an SLR but don't want to pay the price of an DSLR then you are going : to be stuck with film, at least for a while. Each person has to make : their own decision as to when it makes sense to go digital, given that : the prices are falling and will continue to fall it would be hard to : fault someone for holding off to get a better deal. : If you are at all happy with a P&S film camera then you will likely be : happy with a P&S digital as well. What you do in large part depends on : what you are going to do with your photos. For myself I want every : photo I have on my computer, this means scanning negatives from film : shots. : Using a good 35mm camera with a good low ISO film and scanning the : photos can produce good images, but at a high cost. For myself the : time was a large factor, then there was the scratches the processor : always seemed to get on the negatives. I am also not the most : organized person so having the digital photos date stamped is a big : help. : But if you don't care about having your photos on your computer this : might not matter as much, clearly there are those in this group who : have no great interest in having their photos on their computers. : Please keep in mind that just because you don't want to use film does : not mean that others might not. If you really are interested in going : digital, and not just tweaking the film guys, then I suggest that you : do a lot of research on just what kind of digital camera would suit : your needs. When you find a camera that you think you would like you : should ask yourself if you will likely take enough photos with it in : the next two to three years for it to be worth it, because in two to : three years you will likely want a newer model. : Scott If you like to project color slides, or even enjoy looking at slides with a good loupe, then film is the way to go. Also, if you like to take a few of your slides and have them blown up to 12 x 18 or larger and frame them, then slide film is the way to go. As you say, both mediums have their uses.......
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#18
April 5th 05, 03:04 PM
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kodak tri-x.
"Mr.Bolshoy Huy" wrote in message oups.com... Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing film. Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him replace the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the whole day on just one card(which will be reused later). Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the camera(lens, etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way once. I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film?
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#19
April 5th 05, 03:04 PM
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kodak tri-x.
"Mr.Bolshoy Huy" wrote in message oups.com... Went to a wedding yesterday. There were 2 photogs, one using a Fuji DSLR, the other 35mm(strange). I had my 35mm Vivitar P&S. I ran out of shots quickly. lost some moments while replacing film. Dont know if the guy using the DSLR saved as RAW, but I saw him replace the card just once. I bet even those using P&S digitals shot the whole day on just one card(which will be reused later). Furthermore, I really dont like exposing the inside of the camera(lens, etc.) to the dust, smoke, etc. while replacing the film. Also, film has an expiration date; something I learned the hard way once. I am thinking my next P&S(or even SLR) will be digital. Can someone give me a reason(s) to stay with film?
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#20
April 5th 05, 05:07 PM
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death skunk five wrote: kodak tri-x. Of all the reason one might want to use film that is not on the list, at least not my list, never liked tri-x. Scott
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