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"ColynG©" wrote in message
... On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:40:04 GMT, "Darrell" wrote: Bid, win then Say: "ship it to me first, then I'll pay; I have XXX # perfect positive feedback saying I alway pay, you have zero, when I get it, I'll pay." I have done this maybe a half-a-dozen times, and they always agreed. It's what happenes when you deal with honest people with zero feedback. If they utterly refuse... 'nuff said. I am an honest seller but would never send anything without payment first. How does the seller know if you are honest? Your idea would cause a lot of people to get ripped off.. Colyn Goodson http://home.swbell.net/colyng http://www.colyngoodson.com TBF, it's only the reverse of what a new seller is asking. Either way if someone gets scammed they are down the $. |
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I have over 100 positive feedback, 100% PERFECT, no neutrals, nothing. When
I deal with someone that has no feedback I ask them to ship it to me then I will pay.(before I bid) When I get it (I have every time) I pay them promptly and give them their first well deserved feedback. I know I've done this at least a half a dozen times. Why do you think I am a scammer? My theory is, what's the point of the trustworthiness system of feedback, if you can't look at it and trust someone? I have never gotten burned. I am at no risk, I'm honest, why shouldn't I do this? "Augustus" wrote in message news:zAj3d.28125$t61.27796@clgrps13... "Darrell" wrote in message news:EDi3d.70234$MQ5.12277@attbi_s52... Bid, win then Say: "ship it to me first, then I'll pay; I have XXX # perfect positive feedback saying I alway pay, you have zero, when I get it, I'll pay." I have done this maybe a half-a-dozen times, and they always agreed. It's what happenes when you deal with honest people with zero feedback. If they utterly refuse... 'nuff said. I'm honest, and there's NO way I or anyone else I know would ship something without payment just because I was a newbie. Your technique is a borderline scam in itself. If I refuse to ship without payment that makes me a a scammer in your books.....'nuff said. |
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I have over 100 positive feedback, 100% PERFECT, no neutrals, nothing. When
I deal with someone that has no feedback I ask them to ship it to me then I will pay.(before I bid) When I get it (I have every time) I pay them promptly and give them their first well deserved feedback. I know I've done this at least a half a dozen times. Why do you think I am a scammer? My theory is, what's the point of the trustworthiness system of feedback, if you can't look at it and trust someone? I have never gotten burned. I am at no risk, I'm honest, why shouldn't I do this? "Augustus" wrote in message news:zAj3d.28125$t61.27796@clgrps13... "Darrell" wrote in message news:EDi3d.70234$MQ5.12277@attbi_s52... Bid, win then Say: "ship it to me first, then I'll pay; I have XXX # perfect positive feedback saying I alway pay, you have zero, when I get it, I'll pay." I have done this maybe a half-a-dozen times, and they always agreed. It's what happenes when you deal with honest people with zero feedback. If they utterly refuse... 'nuff said. I'm honest, and there's NO way I or anyone else I know would ship something without payment just because I was a newbie. Your technique is a borderline scam in itself. If I refuse to ship without payment that makes me a a scammer in your books.....'nuff said. |
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"Darrell" wrote in message news:eZl3d.76101$D%.68174@attbi_s51... I have over 100 positive feedback, 100% PERFECT, no neutrals, nothing. When I deal with someone that has no feedback I ask them to ship it to me then I will pay.(before I bid) When I get it (I have every time) I pay them promptly and give them their first well deserved feedback. My feedback is over 120, with 100% positive and no neutral. Not that this really has anything to do with the point. I've never heard of any seller doing this. I have seen plenty of auctions where persons with 0 or very low feedback must contact the seller to be approved. I didn't say you were a scammer, I said your technique when dealing with newbie's is close to being a scam (meaning that an item is irreversibly shipped without any payment being received except the promise that IF you get it and like it, then you'll pay them ) and certainly leaves it wide open for abuse by the seller. And it flies in the face of what standard, accepted Ebay practice is. A seller who does this and then runs into problems with the has zero recourse from Paypal or their credit card company because no payment has been made. Of the 4 or NPB's I've had, half were from people with feedback in the 30's to 40's with no negs or neutrals. The other two were newbie's. But I've had at least 15-20 auctions won by zero, one or two feedback people who instantly paid. If you don't want zero or one feedback bidders, clearly state this in the auction and cancel bids if necessary. |
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"Darrell" wrote in message news:eZl3d.76101$D%.68174@attbi_s51... I have over 100 positive feedback, 100% PERFECT, no neutrals, nothing. When I deal with someone that has no feedback I ask them to ship it to me then I will pay.(before I bid) When I get it (I have every time) I pay them promptly and give them their first well deserved feedback. My feedback is over 120, with 100% positive and no neutral. Not that this really has anything to do with the point. I've never heard of any seller doing this. I have seen plenty of auctions where persons with 0 or very low feedback must contact the seller to be approved. I didn't say you were a scammer, I said your technique when dealing with newbie's is close to being a scam (meaning that an item is irreversibly shipped without any payment being received except the promise that IF you get it and like it, then you'll pay them ) and certainly leaves it wide open for abuse by the seller. And it flies in the face of what standard, accepted Ebay practice is. A seller who does this and then runs into problems with the has zero recourse from Paypal or their credit card company because no payment has been made. Of the 4 or NPB's I've had, half were from people with feedback in the 30's to 40's with no negs or neutrals. The other two were newbie's. But I've had at least 15-20 auctions won by zero, one or two feedback people who instantly paid. If you don't want zero or one feedback bidders, clearly state this in the auction and cancel bids if necessary. |
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"Augustus" wrote in message news:zAj3d.28125$t61.27796@clgrps13... "Darrell" wrote in message news:EDi3d.70234$MQ5.12277@attbi_s52... Bid, win then Say: "ship it to me first, then I'll pay; I have XXX # perfect positive feedback saying I alway pay, you have zero, when I get it, I'll pay." I have done this maybe a half-a-dozen times, and they always agreed. It's what happenes when you deal with honest people with zero feedback. If they utterly refuse... 'nuff said. I'm honest, and there's NO way I or anyone else I know would ship something without payment just because I was a newbie. Your technique is a borderline scam in itself. If I refuse to ship without payment that makes me a a scammer in your books.....'nuff said. It's a scam unless you make the arrangement with the seller prior to bidding on the item.....If the buyer had a lot of good feedback, then I would consider it as a newbie seller, but if the seller doesn't agree in advance, then it's a scam....... |
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"Augustus" wrote in message news:zAj3d.28125$t61.27796@clgrps13... "Darrell" wrote in message news:EDi3d.70234$MQ5.12277@attbi_s52... Bid, win then Say: "ship it to me first, then I'll pay; I have XXX # perfect positive feedback saying I alway pay, you have zero, when I get it, I'll pay." I have done this maybe a half-a-dozen times, and they always agreed. It's what happenes when you deal with honest people with zero feedback. If they utterly refuse... 'nuff said. I'm honest, and there's NO way I or anyone else I know would ship something without payment just because I was a newbie. Your technique is a borderline scam in itself. If I refuse to ship without payment that makes me a a scammer in your books.....'nuff said. It's a scam unless you make the arrangement with the seller prior to bidding on the item.....If the buyer had a lot of good feedback, then I would consider it as a newbie seller, but if the seller doesn't agree in advance, then it's a scam....... |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Darrell"
wrote: I have over 100 positive feedback, 100% PERFECT, no neutrals, nothing. When I deal with someone that has no feedback I ask them to ship it to me then I will pay.(before I bid) When I get it (I have every time) I pay them promptly and give them their first well deserved feedback. I know I've done this at least a half a dozen times. Why do you think I am a scammer? My theory is, what's the point of the trustworthiness system of feedback, if you can't look at it and trust someone? I have never gotten burned. I am at no risk, I'm honest, why shouldn't I do this? You're confusing honest with stupid. If you can find people to agree to this, more power to you, but it's not because they're honest I can tell ya that much. You really think ebay feedback is an indication of a person's character? What an honest assumption to make. Bigolhomo |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Darrell"
wrote: I have over 100 positive feedback, 100% PERFECT, no neutrals, nothing. When I deal with someone that has no feedback I ask them to ship it to me then I will pay.(before I bid) When I get it (I have every time) I pay them promptly and give them their first well deserved feedback. I know I've done this at least a half a dozen times. Why do you think I am a scammer? My theory is, what's the point of the trustworthiness system of feedback, if you can't look at it and trust someone? I have never gotten burned. I am at no risk, I'm honest, why shouldn't I do this? You're confusing honest with stupid. If you can find people to agree to this, more power to you, but it's not because they're honest I can tell ya that much. You really think ebay feedback is an indication of a person's character? What an honest assumption to make. Bigolhomo |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Darrell"
wrote: I have over 100 positive feedback, 100% PERFECT, no neutrals, nothing. When I deal with someone that has no feedback I ask them to ship it to me then I will pay.(before I bid) When I get it (I have every time) I pay them promptly and give them their first well deserved feedback. I know I've done this at least a half a dozen times. Why do you think I am a scammer? My theory is, what's the point of the trustworthiness system of feedback, if you can't look at it and trust someone? I have never gotten burned. I am at no risk, I'm honest, why shouldn't I do this? You're confusing honest with stupid. If you can find people to agree to this, more power to you, but it's not because they're honest I can tell ya that much. You really think ebay feedback is an indication of a person's character? What an honest assumption to make. Bigolhomo |
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