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Old January 22nd 17, 08:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alfred Molon[_4_]
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Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.
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Old January 22nd 17, 11:55 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 22/01/2017 08:56, Alfred Molon wrote:
Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


Battery consumption, I believe. Perhaps Sony turn on the GPS less often
than other did in the past. Depending on how it's operated, a typical
modern GPS module may take between 5 and 35 mA at 3V.


https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default...-13003366).pdf

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Old January 22nd 17, 01:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alan Browne
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On 2017-01-22 03:56, Alfred Molon wrote:
Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


Short version: there are many things about a DSLR that drive the
purchase choice. GPS is very low in priority for most DSLR buyers -
nice-to-have v. essential to making photos.

And of course GPS uses power and of course it is added cost.

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Old January 22nd 17, 04:17 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Alfred Molon:
Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.


Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


Battery life in my Canon 6D is greatly impacted by GPS through a
programming error on Canon's part. GPS remains on when the camera is
powered off. One can go into the menus and turn it off but the switch
is buried deeply in the menus and that is an unnecessary bother. As a
result I almost never use the 6D's GPS feature. Instead, I add
geographic coordinates in Lightroom. If I'm in unfamiliar terrain that
I feel I might not be able to pinpoint later (rare) I take an iPhone
photo at the location and use its GPS data.

Canon got it right with my 5D Mark IV; GPS turns off with the rest of
the camera. I use it all the time because I photograph little
arthropods and other small living things for the Encyclopedia of Life
and the Maryland Biodiversity Project and having GPS data--where does
this critter or plant live--is important in such photos.

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Old January 22nd 17, 04:28 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 22/01/2017 13:22, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-01-22 03:56, Alfred Molon wrote:
Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


Short version: there are many things about a DSLR that drive the
purchase choice. GPS is very low in priority for most DSLR buyers -
nice-to-have v. essential to making photos.


Well, it would drive my purchase choice. It's just about the only
feature that would make me think about changing my Canon 40D.

And of course GPS uses power and of course it is added cost.


I have got a Panasonic compact superzoom with GPS. Before a firmware
update GPS drained the battery very quickly. Since the update, there's
not much difference between having it switched on or off.

Apparently, pre-update, the GPS was on all the time, regardless of power
state. Now it's off when powered down, and polls a few times a minute.


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Old January 22nd 17, 05:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
Alfred Molon wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


Canon have GPS in the 5D4 and 6D models and I think in the 1DX2 too...
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Old January 22nd 17, 05:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

On 2017-01-22 03:56, Alfred Molon wrote:
Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


Short version: there are many things about a DSLR that drive the
purchase choice. GPS is very low in priority for most DSLR buyers -
nice-to-have v. essential to making photos.

And of course GPS uses power and of course it is added cost.


I comes with my three! latest phones and they do tracking with it and
freeware!!!
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Old January 22nd 17, 06:37 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in. they're only finally understanding wifi.
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Old January 22nd 17, 07:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2017-01-22 18:37:18 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.


For Nikon my GP-1 has always performed well but it does add a gizmo to
the hotshoe and an additional cable.

they're only finally understanding wifi.


....and the various manufacturers have yet to perfect the various
implementations of camera WiFi and their ad hoc etworks. They are not
yet reliable enough for me to depend on 100%.


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Old January 22nd 17, 08:21 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.


because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.


And Apple set the pace for that strategy.


your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

apple was the first computer company to build wifi *into* the computer
itself while pc makers forced users to use an external dongle which
required installing drivers (and the incompatibilities that brings).

apple was also the first to include bluetooth classic on the logic
board and the first to offer btle in both smartphones and computers.
windows systems still don't have btle standard and android only
recently caught up (and still a bit buggy).

meanwhile, nikon had this overpriced dongle:
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-pro...s/wt-4a-wirele
ss-transmitter.html
 




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