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Is Pentax 645 going to become a difficult camera to get?



 
 
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Old June 8th 10, 11:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Default Is Pentax 645 going to become a difficult camera to get?

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On 8/06/2010 4:42 p.m., John A. wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:45:50 +1200, wrote:

On 8/06/2010 12:54 p.m., RichA wrote:
Seems like it might. $10k, 40 megapixels (MUCH cheaper than the
competition) and the camera itself is really nice to use. But,
perhaps Pentax doesn't have the production capability to meet demand,
or maybe there aren't enough sensors to make the numbers of these
they'd like to?

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk..._2988 86.html

"The firm had planned to release the camera onto the Japanese market in
May, but said it put back the launch until 11 June because orders exceeded
supplies."


Anyone think of any other company that holds a product off the market
because there's too great a demand for it?

Most companies will start shipping a.s.a.p. when they have a backlog of
orders.

Be interesting to see if it has a "good" 40MP sensor or an also-ran.
Quantity doesn't always mean quality, does it?

Regards, Rog.



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Old June 11th 10, 08:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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"No spam please" wrote in message
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"Me" wrote in message
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On 8/06/2010 4:42 p.m., John A. wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:45:50 +1200, wrote:

On 8/06/2010 12:54 p.m., RichA wrote:
Seems like it might. $10k, 40 megapixels (MUCH cheaper than the
competition) and the camera itself is really nice to use. But,
perhaps Pentax doesn't have the production capability to meet demand,
or maybe there aren't enough sensors to make the numbers of these
they'd like to?

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk..._2988 86.html

"The firm had planned to release the camera onto the Japanese market in
May, but said it put back the launch until 11 June because orders
exceeded supplies."


Anyone think of any other company that holds a product off the market
because there's too great a demand for it?

Most companies will start shipping a.s.a.p. when they have a backlog of
orders.

Be interesting to see if it has a "good" 40MP sensor or an also-ran.
Quantity doesn't always mean quality, does it?

Regards, Rog.


It is not "good", it is superb. Easy to find examples.

Cheers.

Pete


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Old June 11th 10, 08:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:53:07 +0100, Bruce wrote:
: On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:24:07 +0100, "No spam please"
: wrote:
:
: "Me" wrote in message
: ...
: On 8/06/2010 4:42 p.m., John A. wrote:
: On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:45:50 +1200, wrote:
:
: On 8/06/2010 12:54 p.m., RichA wrote:
: Seems like it might. $10k, 40 megapixels (MUCH cheaper than the
: competition) and the camera itself is really nice to use. But,
: perhaps Pentax doesn't have the production capability to meet demand,
: or maybe there aren't enough sensors to make the numbers of these
: they'd like to?
:
: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk..._2988 86.html
:
: "The firm had planned to release the camera onto the Japanese market in
: May, but said it put back the launch until 11 June because orders exceeded
: supplies."
:
: Anyone think of any other company that holds a product off the market
: because there's too great a demand for it?
:
:
: A classic example is Apple, who held back the launch of the iPad in
: Europe because demand was too great.

Wasn't it that demand was so great in the U.S. that it made no sense to launch
in Europe until they got caught up? If so, it's hardly analogous to Pentax not
wanting to launch in Japan. Sounds to me as though Pentax has a manufacturing
problem they fear will cost them big bucks (er, yen) if they don't solve it
pre-launch.

Bob
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Old June 11th 10, 09:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
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In article , No spam please says...
Anyone think of any other company that holds a product off the market
because there's too great a demand for it?


Not 100% sure, but I think that Porsche produces below demand to make
their cars more exclusive.
--



That's not quite the same thing as Pentax production. The DeBeers and OPEC,
etc. regulate production to keep prices high.

BTW what is the basis for your comment about Porsche?

--
Peter

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Old June 11th 10, 09:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On 2010-06-11 21:01:54 +0100, Alfred Molon said:

In article , No spam please says...
Anyone think of any other company that holds a product off the market
because there's too great a demand for it?


Not 100% sure, but I think that Porsche produces below demand to make
their cars more exclusive.


Especially after their non-galvanized models fell apart with rust in
damp climates.

BMW used to be exclusive before their accountants took over. Didn't
they buy Rover from the taxpayers in the UK then sell the crap back at
much higher prices? If so, smart move.

--
Pete

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Old June 11th 10, 09:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"Pete" wrote in message
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BMW used to be exclusive before their accountants took over. Didn't they
buy Rover from the taxpayers in the UK then sell the crap back at much
higher prices? If so, smart move.



Remember the difference between a porcupine and a BMW.


--
Peter

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Old June 11th 10, 10:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 12/06/2010 8:01 a.m., Alfred Molon wrote:
In , No spam please says...
Anyone think of any other company that holds a product off the market
because there's too great a demand for it?


Not 100% sure, but I think that Porsche produces below demand to make
their cars more exclusive.

It's likely that cars have been produced by many mainstream makers in
limited numbers and sold below cost (incl to recover development) for
image branding reasons. Homologation specials for motorsport, and
unique models (Honda NSX?) are probably treated as a marketing cost.
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Old June 11th 10, 11:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On 2010-06-11 21:52:01 +0100, Peter said:

"Pete" wrote in message
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BMW used to be exclusive before their accountants took over. Didn't
they buy Rover from the taxpayers in the UK then sell the crap back at
much higher prices? If so, smart move.



Remember the difference between a porcupine and a BMW.


Yes.

--
Pete

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Old June 11th 10, 11:38 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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"Robert Coe" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:53:07 +0100, Bruce wrote:
: On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:24:07 +0100, "No spam please"
: wrote:
:
: "Me" wrote in message
: ...
: On 8/06/2010 4:42 p.m., John A. wrote:
: On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:45:50 +1200, wrote:
:
: On 8/06/2010 12:54 p.m., RichA wrote:
: Seems like it might. $10k, 40 megapixels (MUCH cheaper than the
: competition) and the camera itself is really nice to use. But,
: perhaps Pentax doesn't have the production capability to meet
demand,
: or maybe there aren't enough sensors to make the numbers of these
: they'd like to?
:
:
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk..._2988 86.html
:
: "The firm had planned to release the camera onto the Japanese market
in
: May, but said it put back the launch until 11 June because orders
exceeded
: supplies."
:
: Anyone think of any other company that holds a product off the market
: because there's too great a demand for it?
:
:
: A classic example is Apple, who held back the launch of the iPad in
: Europe because demand was too great.

Wasn't it that demand was so great in the U.S. that it made no sense to
launch
in Europe until they got caught up? If so, it's hardly analogous to Pentax
not
wanting to launch in Japan. Sounds to me as though Pentax has a
manufacturing
problem they fear will cost them big bucks (er, yen) if they don't solve
it
pre-launch.

Bob


So it the cup half full or half empty, perhaps they are just trying to be
fair to everyone that wants to buy one.


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Old June 12th 10, 04:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"Savageduck" wrote in message
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On 2010-06-11 13:52:01 -0700, "Peter" said:

"Pete" wrote in message
news:2010061121405452681-availableonrequest@aserverinvalid...

BMW used to be exclusive before their accountants took over. Didn't they
buy Rover from the taxpayers in the UK then sell the crap back at much
higher prices? If so, smart move.



Remember the difference between a porcupine and a BMW.


After a shave the porcupine could be cuddly.



Never herd of a Teddy porcupine before.

--
Peter

 




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