GPS

In article 20170122111341236-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck
wrote:


Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

For Nikon my GP-1 has always performed well but it does add a gizmo to
the hotshoe and an additional cable.

i prefer the ones that fit into the accessory port (ideally with a
passthru), which leaves the hotshoe free and there's no cable to get
tangled or caught in anything.

http://terrywhite.com/best-nikon-dslr-gps/

they're only finally understanding wifi.

...and the various manufacturers have yet to perfect the various
implementations of camera WiFi and their ad hoc etworks. They are not
yet reliable enough for me to depend on 100%.

when cameras with wifi first appeared around a decade ago, they
uploaded photos to a cloud service after connecting to a wifi network
which was on the internet. that's the wrong way to do it. some could
send via ftp, which is also the wrong way to do it.

and then there was the horribly overpriced nikon wifi dongle which sold
for an absurd $1000 plus being unnecessarily large. seriously *wtf*
were they thinking, other than to royally rip off customers.

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-pro...s/wt-4a-wirele
ss-transmitter.html

at least camera makers have started to understand the concept of built
in wifi and simple peer to peer networking. for instance, a few cameras
have nfc so you can just tap to transfer photos. it doesn't get any
easier than that. there are also ios/android apps to sync photos.

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

if apple's strategy was to force dongles, then they'd have made the
ports proprietary, requiring an apple dongle to connect to other
products. they didn't do that.

the new macbooks have 4 industry standard usb-c/thunderbolt 3 ports. no
dongles are required unless you're connecting to legacy devices.

usb-c is the future. in a year or so, usb-c will be everywhere and
nothing more than a cable will be required.

already there are a *lot* of usb-c products.

the hp spectre and chromebook pixel have only usb-c ports and nobody is
bitching about either one. hard drives, displays and some smartphones
now have usb-c ports. no dongle required. just a cable.

or just use wireless. not only no dongles, but no cable at all.

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had
a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature
out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

It was until consumer and media pushback caused them to revise their
strategy.

again wrong.

apple's strategy is to advance technology forward. their strategy is
not in any way to force people into buying dongles.

usb-c is the future. other manufacturers are moving to usb-c, exactly
the same thing as what apple is doing, which you continue to ignore.

a few people might need an adapter during the transition, but that's
about it. in a year or so, that will be long forgotten.

even today, most people don't need adapters at all and are embracing
usb-c, as it's *substantially* better than what came before it. it's
just a few vocal whiners who have nothing better to do.

and none of this has anything to do with a gps in a camera.

On 1/22/2017 4:56 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:35:18 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

It was until consumer and media pushback caused them to revise their
strategy.



According to nospam, your comment is irrelevant. Don't you see that if
you refute a nospam comment your refutation is irrelevant.


--
PeterN

In article , PeterN
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

It was until consumer and media pushback caused them to revise their
strategy.


According to nospam, your comment is irrelevant. Don't you see that if
you refute a nospam comment your refutation is irrelevant.

according to nospam, you're once again making up ****.

On 1/22/2017 9:22 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

It was until consumer and media pushback caused them to revise their
strategy.


According to nospam, your comment is irrelevant. Don't you see that if
you refute a nospam comment your refutation is irrelevant.

according to nospam, you're once again making up ****.


You tell more lies than our President.

--
PeterN

On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 21:13:15 -0500, PeterN
wrote:

On 1/22/2017 4:56 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:35:18 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

It was until consumer and media pushback caused them to revise their
strategy.



According to nospam, your comment is irrelevant. Don't you see that if
you refute a nospam comment your refutation is irrelevant.

.... but Tony was not trying to change the topic. It all flowed on
logically.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature
out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

It was until consumer and media pushback caused them to revise their
strategy.


According to nospam, your comment is irrelevant. Don't you see that if
you refute a nospam comment your refutation is irrelevant.

Of course he would say so. Any comment about Apple that is not
boot-licking positive is "bashing" to him. Even if factual.

wrong. i often criticize apple.

the problem is that your criticism is bull**** and singles out apple
when other companies do the exact same thing.

where's the criticism of hp and google when they release laptops with
only usb-c, exactly as apple did?

He brought up overpriced dongles, and Apple was the leader in
requiring them for wanted functions, but he doesn't want to admit
that.

also wrong. dongles are not required nor are any of them overpriced.
you made that up.

His perpetual claim that other people don't know what they're talking
about is a ridiculous and toothless defense.

you continually demonstrate that you do not know what you're talking
about rather frequently, this being yet another such example.

Omitting features and adding dongles to the package to get them cannot
be described with any other term than a "strategy". It's the same
strategy that airlines use to add extras to the base fare.

nonsense. you really are clueless.

apple did not omit *anything*. the new macbooks offer quite a bit more
functionality than what preceded it.

As an experienced airline traveler for market survey taking, he should
be familiar with the strategy.

i'm very familiar with *your* strategy, which is to lie and twist.

In article , PeterN
wrote:


According to nospam, your comment is irrelevant. Don't you see that if
you refute a nospam comment your refutation is irrelevant.

according to nospam, you're once again making up ****.

You tell more lies than our President.

however many lies i tell (which is very low, i can assure you) is
nowhere near as many as you.

On 1/22/2017 10:18 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 21:13:15 -0500, PeterN
wrote:

On 1/22/2017 4:56 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:35:18 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

Any reason why (almost) no DSLRs or ILCs have inbuilt GPS? Sony had a
number of models with GPS in the past, but then took this feature out.

Given that cameras get more and more expensive, cost can't be the
reason. Battery life isn't impacted by GPS, at least not in the Sony
models.

because camera makers are stupid and would rather sell an overpriced
dongle than build it in.

And Apple set the pace for that strategy.

your feeble attempt at apple bashing failed yet again.

as usual, you are completely wrong.

Whoosh. Look up "strategy".

whoosh right back. you haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking
about, as usual.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-the-...ls-17-dongles/

linkbait. dongles is not apple's strategy and never was their strategy.

It was until consumer and media pushback caused them to revise their
strategy.



According to nospam, your comment is irrelevant. Don't you see that if
you refute a nospam comment your refutation is irrelevant.

... but Tony was not trying to change the topic. It all flowed on
logically.


Fix your sarcasm meter.

--
PeterN