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Old April 16th 18, 06:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_7_]
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On 4/15/2018 8:29 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per PeterN:
For the forth time this week I got a phone call from a telephone that
spoofs the telephone number of an Apple store.


My cell phone gets fairly-frequent robocalls from numbers on the same
exchange.

With me it's to the point where, if you are not in my phonebook, I do not
answer.

On the land line, since starting NoMoRobo, robo and solicitor calls have
dropped from 6-10 per day to *maybe* one per month.


I would have done that a long time ago, but I get a lot of calls from my
doctors private lines. None of the "Apple" calls have been answered by
me, but they have left messages on my voice mail.

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Old April 16th 18, 08:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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In article , PeterN
wrote:


They give me a number to call, which does not compare with any
legitimate Apple number. I have reported this phony number to Apple.


there's nothing apple or anyone else can realistically do. the calls
are almost certainly coming from outside the usa, and it's only going
to get worse.


So you are saying that the number they ask me to call cannot be traced?


realistically, no.

scammers use voip, so the best you could do with a traditional trace is
find where it connects to pots network.

you might be able to obtain an ip address (which could be spoofed),
which geolocates to somewhere on the other side of the planet.

what are you going to do now?

According to one of my friends, who was an engineer with the original
AT&T, and another friend who is retired from a TLOF agency, just about
any number can be traced, though some with more difficulty than other's.


he's living in the past.

today, with voip, it's a whole different game.

I also heard some horror stories about some who were naive enough to
either press the requested button, or call the number they ask you to call.


there are always horror stories. so what?
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Old April 17th 18, 03:49 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_7_]
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On 4/16/2018 3:10 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:


They give me a number to call, which does not compare with any
legitimate Apple number. I have reported this phony number to Apple.

there's nothing apple or anyone else can realistically do. the calls
are almost certainly coming from outside the usa, and it's only going
to get worse.


So you are saying that the number they ask me to call cannot be traced?


realistically, no.

scammers use voip, so the best you could do with a traditional trace is
find where it connects to pots network.

you might be able to obtain an ip address (which could be spoofed),
which geolocates to somewhere on the other side of the planet.

what are you going to do now?

According to one of my friends, who was an engineer with the original
AT&T, and another friend who is retired from a TLOF agency, just about
any number can be traced, though some with more difficulty than other's.


he's living in the past.

today, with voip, it's a whole different game.

For several reasons I trust what these guys say, over what you say.
Don't bother to reply, unless you show me the type of solid evidence
that they have shown me.


I also heard some horror stories about some who were naive enough to
either press the requested button, or call the number they ask you to call.


there are always horror stories. so what?

You missed my point completely.


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Old April 17th 18, 04:10 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Letting off steam

In article , PeterN
wrote:


They give me a number to call, which does not compare with any
legitimate Apple number. I have reported this phony number to Apple.

there's nothing apple or anyone else can realistically do. the calls
are almost certainly coming from outside the usa, and it's only going
to get worse.

So you are saying that the number they ask me to call cannot be traced?


realistically, no.

scammers use voip, so the best you could do with a traditional trace is
find where it connects to pots network.

you might be able to obtain an ip address (which could be spoofed),
which geolocates to somewhere on the other side of the planet.

what are you going to do now?

According to one of my friends, who was an engineer with the original
AT&T, and another friend who is retired from a TLOF agency, just about
any number can be traced, though some with more difficulty than other's.


he's living in the past.

today, with voip, it's a whole different game.

For several reasons I trust what these guys say, over what you say.


then you're foolish.

Don't bother to reply, unless you show me the type of solid evidence
that they have shown me.


what did they show you? tracing voip is *very* different than tracing
pots, as explained above.
 




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