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"The cloud" strikes again.
On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
On 8/21/2020 6:17 PM, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 21 August 2020 14:03:57 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. Oh? I have a private "cloud" on the server for my company's site. It has automatic backups and I STILL wouldn't be without an off-line backup of my files. YMMV. -- best regards, Neil |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
On Aug 21, 2020, RichA wrote
(in ): On Friday, 21 August 2020 14:03:57 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. I guess you didn’t bother to read beyond the headline. The actual issue was for users of the iPad & iPhone versions of mobile Lightroom who had NOT synced their image files to Adobe Creative Cloud storage. So Adobe Creative Cloud had backups if the dumb users had bothered to sync their files to CC. If they had done so their image files would have been recoverable. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
In article .com,
Savageduck wrote: On Aug 21, 2020, RichA wrote (in ): https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...-users-photos- and-presets-adobe-says-they-are-not-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. I guess you didnąt bother to read beyond the headline. he never does. The actual issue was for users of the iPad & iPhone versions of mobile Lightroom who had NOT synced their image files to Adobe Creative Cloud storage. So Adobe Creative Cloud had backups if the dumb users had bothered to sync their files to CC. If they had done so their image files would have been recoverable. they would also have been recoverable if they had their own backups. since their photos were not important enough to be backed up, it doesn't matter that they're gone. |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
On 2020-08-21 18:17, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 21 August 2020 14:03:57 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. No. My data is my data and I'm solely responsible for my data on my devices. That's why ... I still have all of my data. |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
In article ,
RichA wrote: Technical issues, bankruptcy, hacking. All put cloud storage in-doubt. While triple redundancy sounds good, a lot of smaller companies opt for cloud systems because they don't want ANY internal infrastructure/or I.T. costs. the cloud is by far, the most reliable of any backup system, but should never be the *only* backup method used. smaller companies and certainly individuals do not have the resources to come anywhere close to the level of redundancy and reliability cloud services offer. |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
On 2020-08-22 11:14, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 21 August 2020 18:51:08 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote: On Aug 21, 2020, RichA wrote (in ): On Friday, 21 August 2020 14:03:57 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. I guess you didn’t bother to read beyond the headline. The actual issue was for users of the iPad & iPhone versions of mobile Lightroom who had NOT synced their image files to Adobe Creative Cloud storage. So Adobe Creative Cloud had backups if the dumb users had bothered to sync their files to CC. If they had done so their image files would have been recoverable. -- Regards, Savageduck Technical issues, bankruptcy, hacking. All put cloud storage in-doubt. While triple redundancy sounds good, a lot of smaller companies opt for cloud systems because they don't want ANY internal infrastructure/or I.T. costs. Unacceptable risk for any company. There's no problem with outsourcing services, including backups, but relying on a 'cloud' solution alone (whether for convenience or cost) is pretty dumb. OTOH, I use cloud storage for a simple reason: convenience. All of my active business (and much of my personal financial) data is available to me wherever I am. But it's backed up separately and often. Regarding Adobe, they are a software company who make utilities for creatives. Storage is not their core expertise - it is a market access vehicle. No wonder they have problems. |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
On Aug 22, 2020, Alan Browne wrote
(in article ): On 2020-08-22 11:14, RichA wrote: On Friday, 21 August 2020 18:51:08 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote: On Aug 21, 2020, RichA wrote (in ): On Friday, 21 August 2020 14:03:57 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. I guess you didn’t bother to read beyond the headline. The actual issue was for users of the iPad & iPhone versions of mobile Lightroom who had NOT synced their image files to Adobe Creative Cloud storage. So Adobe Creative Cloud had backups if the dumb users had bothered to sync their files to CC. If they had done so their image files would have been recoverable. -- Regards, Savageduck Technical issues, bankruptcy, hacking. All put cloud storage in-doubt. While triple redundancy sounds good, a lot of smaller companies opt for cloud systems because they don't want ANY internal infrastructure/or I.T. costs. Unacceptable risk for any company. There's no problem with outsourcing services, including backups, but relying on a 'cloud' solution alone (whether for convenience or cost) is pretty dumb. OTOH, I use cloud storage for a simple reason: convenience. All of my active business (and much of my personal financial) data is available to me wherever I am. But it's backed up separately and often. Regarding Adobe, they are a software company who make utilities for creatives. Storage is not their core expertise - it is a market access vehicle. No wonder they have problems. However, Adobe isn’t having problems with Creative Cloud storage, that works just fine. The problem reported in this thread is isolated to mobile Lightroom users who had not synced their image files to Adobe CC. All files synced to Adobe CC remain intact, and recoverable. This is not an issue with Lightroom Classic on desktop computers. ....and personally I maintain backups independent of what I have stored on Adobe CC (which I do not use as a full asset backup), Smugmug which is currently my preferred image sharing app. These days DropBox has for me, fallen into minimal use. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:53:05 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On Aug 22, 2020, Alan Browne wrote (in article ): On 2020-08-22 11:14, RichA wrote: On Friday, 21 August 2020 18:51:08 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote: On Aug 21, 2020, RichA wrote (in ): On Friday, 21 August 2020 14:03:57 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. I guess you didn’t bother to read beyond the headline. The actual issue was for users of the iPad & iPhone versions of mobile Lightroom who had NOT synced their image files to Adobe Creative Cloud storage. So Adobe Creative Cloud had backups if the dumb users had bothered to sync their files to CC. If they had done so their image files would have been recoverable. -- Regards, Savageduck Technical issues, bankruptcy, hacking. All put cloud storage in-doubt. While triple redundancy sounds good, a lot of smaller companies opt for cloud systems because they don't want ANY internal infrastructure/or I.T. costs. Unacceptable risk for any company. There's no problem with outsourcing services, including backups, but relying on a 'cloud' solution alone (whether for convenience or cost) is pretty dumb. OTOH, I use cloud storage for a simple reason: convenience. All of my active business (and much of my personal financial) data is available to me wherever I am. But it's backed up separately and often. Regarding Adobe, they are a software company who make utilities for creatives. Storage is not their core expertise - it is a market access vehicle. No wonder they have problems. However, Adobe isn’t having problems with Creative Cloud storage, that works just fine. The problem reported in this thread is isolated to mobile Lightroom users who had not synced their image files to Adobe CC. All files synced to Adobe CC remain intact, and recoverable. I'm frankly astonished that Adobe should release software with this potential. I can't believe that this is deliberate. Instead it smacks of inadequate testing. If they had tested it properly they would have known that at the very least a warning should have been incorporated in the update. This is not an issue with Lightroom Classic on desktop computers. ...and personally I maintain backups independent of what I have stored on Adobe CC (which I do not use as a full asset backup), Smugmug which is currently my preferred image sharing app. These days DropBox has for me, fallen into minimal use. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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"The cloud" strikes again.
On 2020-08-22 13:53, Savageduck wrote:
On Aug 22, 2020, Alan Browne wrote (in article ): On 2020-08-22 11:14, RichA wrote: On Friday, 21 August 2020 18:51:08 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote: On Aug 21, 2020, RichA wrote (in ): On Friday, 21 August 2020 14:03:57 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-08-20 10:58, RichA wrote: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/20/lig...t-recoverable/ Is there a lost generation that's never heard of backups? You are right, the CLOUD COMPANY should have had backups. I guess you didn’t bother to read beyond the headline. The actual issue was for users of the iPad & iPhone versions of mobile Lightroom who had NOT synced their image files to Adobe Creative Cloud storage. So Adobe Creative Cloud had backups if the dumb users had bothered to sync their files to CC. If they had done so their image files would have been recoverable. -- Regards, Savageduck Technical issues, bankruptcy, hacking. All put cloud storage in-doubt. While triple redundancy sounds good, a lot of smaller companies opt for cloud systems because they don't want ANY internal infrastructure/or I.T. costs. Unacceptable risk for any company. There's no problem with outsourcing services, including backups, but relying on a 'cloud' solution alone (whether for convenience or cost) is pretty dumb. OTOH, I use cloud storage for a simple reason: convenience. All of my active business (and much of my personal financial) data is available to me wherever I am. But it's backed up separately and often. Regarding Adobe, they are a software company who make utilities for creatives. Storage is not their core expertise - it is a market access vehicle. No wonder they have problems. However, Adobe isn’t having problems with Creative Cloud storage, that works just fine. Really? Didn't they have a massive data breach last year? The problem reported in this thread is isolated to mobile Lightroom users who had not synced their image files to Adobe CC. All files synced to Adobe CC remain intact, and recoverable. Execution means - all - of the parts working. |
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