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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
Hello,
I like tri-x, I found it very easy to use, it allows push/pull treatments, the grain can be choosen depending on developer, with D76/ID1 it has quite fine grain and good acutance and it has good scale of grey. But I think it has not so much details (especially in midtones) as I would like to see, it has less sharpens than I want, and its curve seems to be a bit, onlt a bit, flat. Should I change it with Fuji Neopan 400? Could it be the film I'm looking for general purposes BW photos? I've read it has much more details, finer grain and a deeper curve on low-midtones. Is it right? After reading that, I'm very interested in testing it, and it seems my "perfect" film. But I have to order it online because local shops doesn't have it (I live in a small town in the centre of Italy), so before buying I would like to receive comments on my post. Thanks a lot. ...................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
whitewave wrote in message . ..
Hello, I like tri-x, I found it very easy to use, it allows push/pull treatments, the grain can be choosen depending on developer, with D76/ID1 it has quite fine grain and good acutance and it has good scale of grey. But I think it has not so much details (especially in midtones) as I would like to see, it has less sharpens than I want, and its curve seems to be a bit, onlt a bit, flat. Should I change it with Fuji Neopan 400? Could it be the film I'm looking for general purposes BW photos? I've read it has much more details, finer grain and a deeper curve on low-midtones. Is it right? After reading that, I'm very interested in testing it, and it seems my "perfect" film. But I have to order it online because local shops doesn't have it (I live in a small town in the centre of Italy), so before buying I would like to receive comments on my post. Thanks a lot. ..................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it I have been using a lot of this film lately, and it seems to be very good at just about everything. I like it better than Tri-X, HP5 Plus, or Agfapan 400. |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
I have been using a lot of this film lately, and it seems to be very good at just about everything. I like it better than Tri-X, HP5 Plus, or Agfapan 400. I know this question sounds strange: do you think it's the film I want? Thanks. ...................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
whitewave wrote: I have been using a lot of this film lately, and it seems to be very good at just about everything. I like it better than Tri-X, HP5 Plus, or Agfapan 400. I know this question sounds strange: do you think it's the film I want? Neopan 400 is the FP4 of 400 speed emulsions. It's got that classic look which prints well on G2-3 and has exactly the right edge to contours. one of the nicest things about it is the very clear base, which reduces printing times, and the tolerance it has to developer types and timing. The usual comment about Neopan is that if you liked films in the 1970s, and then found all the new formulations somehow removed their character regardless of benefits, Neopan gives you back that feeling of using a film which responds predictably and matches the response of papers easily. DK |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
David Kilpatrick wrote in message ...
whitewave wrote: I have been using a lot of this film lately, and it seems to be very good at just about everything. I like it better than Tri-X, HP5 Plus, or Agfapan 400. I know this question sounds strange: do you think it's the film I want? Neopan 400 is the FP4 of 400 speed emulsions. It's got that classic look which prints well on G2-3 and has exactly the right edge to contours. one of the nicest things about it is the very clear base, which reduces printing times, and the tolerance it has to developer types and timing. The usual comment about Neopan is that if you liked films in the 1970s, and then found all the new formulations somehow removed their character regardless of benefits, Neopan gives you back that feeling of using a film which responds predictably and matches the response of papers easily. DK The more I use it, the more I like it. Try some! I suggest Paterson Acutol 1+14 for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
Never ever seen or used one.Usually bulk FP4 or sometimes Delta 400.
-- Dimitris Tzortzakakis,Iraklion Crete,Greece Analogue technology rules-digital sucks http://www.patriko-kreta.com dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr the return adress is corrupted Warning:all offending messages will be deleted, and the offender/spammer will be put on my personal "black list". ? "Michael Scarpitti" ?????? ??? ?????? om... whitewave wrote in message . .. Hello, I like tri-x, I found it very easy to use, it allows push/pull treatments, the grain can be choosen depending on developer, with D76/ID1 it has quite fine grain and good acutance and it has good scale of grey. But I think it has not so much details (especially in midtones) as I would like to see, it has less sharpens than I want, and its curve seems to be a bit, onlt a bit, flat. Should I change it with Fuji Neopan 400? Could it be the film I'm looking for general purposes BW photos? I've read it has much more details, finer grain and a deeper curve on low-midtones. Is it right? After reading that, I'm very interested in testing it, and it seems my "perfect" film. But I have to order it online because local shops doesn't have it (I live in a small town in the centre of Italy), so before buying I would like to receive comments on my post. Thanks a lot. ..................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it I have been using a lot of this film lately, and it seems to be very good at just about everything. I like it better than Tri-X, HP5 Plus, or Agfapan 400. |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
whitewave wrote in message . ..
My current preferences, and the exposure index I use: Ilford Pan-F (EI 50) (Acutol 1+24, 8 minutes) Ilford FP4 (EI 125) (Acutol 1+15, 7,5 minutes) Fuji Neopan 400 (EI 320) (Acutol 1+14, 8 minutes) Fuji Neopan 1600 (EI 650) (Acutol 1+15, 7,5 minutes) Ilford SFX (EI 160) (Acutol 1+14, 9 minutes) I have also been happy with: Ilford Delta 400 (EI 320) (FX-39 1+14, 8 minutes) Ilford HP5 Plus (Acutol 1+14, 8 minutes) Kodak T-Max 3200 (EI 800) (FX-39 1+14, 7,5 minutes) Development at 20C/68F. Agitation: two inversions once per minute. |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
Il Wed, 02 Jun 2004 05:28:38 -0500, ha scritto:
whitewave wrote: Good pictures, but I don't like the developer. I used Xtol 1:3. What do you mean when you say you don't like the developer? Maybe I'm making a mistake, but I think you prefer less contrast but more shades of grey. I'm looking for different results. Look at my new post. Anyway I like your photos, and I think you got a good BW for THAT kind of photos. ...................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it |
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Kodak Tri-x or Fuji Nepan 400?
IMHO the choice of developer is of as much importance.
On http://www.fotoimport.no/rammer.html I found a collection of curves, resulting from tests with different combo's of film and developer. For those of you who don't understand Norwegian ;-)) : follow the link 2. Sort/hvit film (B&W film) and click on the first item in the list "Se vare nye fremkallertabeller med kurver" (won't translate that one). On this page, scroll down to the list of developers. If you remember that 'fremkaller' means 'developer', you're doing well. Notice that for e.g. the difference between some curves of the same film in a different developer are sometimes bigger than the differences between different films in the same soup. All in all it's just a ... matter of taste, and one can only develop this by continuing tasting and getting used to a specific combo before trying something else. Good luck! Jan -- Jan ------------------------------------------------------------- Cantet amant quod quisque levant et carmina curas ------------------------------------------------------------- "whitewave" schreef in bericht ... Hello, I like tri-x, I found it very easy to use, it allows push/pull treatments, the grain can be choosen depending on developer, with D76/ID1 it has quite fine grain and good acutance and it has good scale of grey. But I think it has not so much details (especially in midtones) as I would like to see, it has less sharpens than I want, and its curve seems to be a bit, onlt a bit, flat. Should I change it with Fuji Neopan 400? Could it be the film I'm looking for general purposes BW photos? I've read it has much more details, finer grain and a deeper curve on low-midtones. Is it right? After reading that, I'm very interested in testing it, and it seems my "perfect" film. But I have to order it online because local shops doesn't have it (I live in a small town in the centre of Italy), so before buying I would like to receive comments on my post. Thanks a lot. ..................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it |
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