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  #31  
Old May 22nd 18, 03:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Ron C
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On 5/21/2018 10:00 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 5/21/2018 8:06 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2018 14:36:56 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 5/20/2018 5:53 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:17:04 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Eric Stevens:
The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to
owning a smart phone.

Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966
to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and
deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very
poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey
photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where
individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages
can afford to share one.

I would regard a community which had to pool their funds to buy a
smartphone as poor. In such a community there is no hope for an
individual who wants to buy a smartphone or camera.


I think your comment is a bigoted reflection of your colonial heritage.
Do you still believe in the white man's burden?


I don't understand what you think your comment has to do with my
comment about standards of poverty. I stand by my original statement
that "The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire
to owning a smart phone". That is an observation which has nothing at
all to do with colonial heritage or the white man's burden.


Please read again what you wrote. "In such a community there is NO
HOPE......"* (emphasis supplied,)
Perhaps you did not mean that, but that's how it sounded to me.


...and maybe then he might complete the loop and relate it
to the reuse of one's "Cannon Glass."
~~
Truly, "Canon glass" reused on "iPhones" is a first world
"thing" at best.
~~ ~~
( Ah, the oddities of thread drift! ) ;-)
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  #32  
Old May 22nd 18, 11:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Mon, 21 May 2018 20:00:32 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience
is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with
great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a
phone.
I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather
than live it in real time.

The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to
owning a smart phone.

so what? they won't be buying a camera either.

You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph.

And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it
that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of
the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a
smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy.

then they won't be choosing which one to buy, will they?


Changing the subject again.


nope.

as usual, you completely miss the point.


The problem is that you have selected a point different from that at
this part of the thread. I am happy to leave you with it.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #33  
Old May 23rd 18, 12:02 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the

experience
is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem

with
great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a
phone.
I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life

rather
than live it in real time.

The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to
owning a smart phone.

so what? they won't be buying a camera either.

You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph.

And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it
that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of
the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a
smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy.

then they won't be choosing which one to buy, will they?

Changing the subject again.


nope.

as usual, you completely miss the point.


The problem is that you have selected a point different from that at
this part of the thread.


nope.

I am happy to leave you with it.


only because you know you can't back up your claims.
  #34  
Old May 23rd 18, 12:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Mon, 21 May 2018 22:00:47 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 5/21/2018 8:06 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2018 14:36:56 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 5/20/2018 5:53 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:17:04 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Eric Stevens:
The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to
owning a smart phone.

Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966
to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and
deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very
poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey
photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where
individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages
can afford to share one.

I would regard a community which had to pool their funds to buy a
smartphone as poor. In such a community there is no hope for an
individual who wants to buy a smartphone or camera.


I think your comment is a bigoted reflection of your colonial heritage.
Do you still believe in the white man's burden?


I don't understand what you think your comment has to do with my
comment about standards of poverty. I stand by my original statement
that "The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire
to owning a smart phone". That is an observation which has nothing at
all to do with colonial heritage or the white man's burden.


Please read again what you wrote. "In such a community there is NO
HOPE......" (emphasis supplied,)
Perhaps you did not mean that, but that's how it sounded to me.


What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not
be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the
same way that in the majority of communities around the world no
single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing
777.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #35  
Old May 23rd 18, 01:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Eric Stevens:
What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not
be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the
same way that in the majority of communities around the world no
single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing
777.


What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society
that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are
speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live?

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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  #36  
Old May 23rd 18, 05:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2018-05-23 00:42:48 +0000, Davoud said:

Eric Stevens:
What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not
be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the
same way that in the majority of communities around the world no
single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing
777.


What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society
that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are
speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live?


I have a very hard time deciding what jumbo I'm not going to by due to
lack of founds. Charing a smartphone in a rural community is not
stranger than having a partyline telephone connection. Something that I
did not knew existed or what it was before I encountered via American
television...
--
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  #37  
Old May 23rd 18, 05:33 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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On 2018-05-22 23:02:30 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the

experience
is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem

with
great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a
phone.
I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life

rather
than live it in real time.

The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to
owning a smart phone.

so what? they won't be buying a camera either.

You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph.

And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it
that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of
the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a
smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy.

then they won't be choosing which one to buy, will they?

Changing the subject again.

nope.

as usual, you completely miss the point.


The problem is that you have selected a point different from that at
this part of the thread.


nope.

I am happy to leave you with it.


only because you know you can't back up your claims.


You can't have to many backups...
--
teleportation kills

  #38  
Old May 23rd 18, 10:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Tue, 22 May 2018 20:42:48 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Eric Stevens:
What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not
be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the
same way that in the majority of communities around the world no
single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing
777.


What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society
that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are
speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live?


What exactly are you driving at?
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #39  
Old May 23rd 18, 10:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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rOn Wed, 23 May 2018 06:32:35 +0200, android wrote:

On 2018-05-23 00:42:48 +0000, Davoud said:

Eric Stevens:
What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not
be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the
same way that in the majority of communities around the world no
single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing
777.


What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society
that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are
speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live?


I have a very hard time deciding what jumbo I'm not going to by due to
lack of founds. Charing a smartphone in a rural community is not
stranger than having a partyline telephone connection. Something that I
did not knew existed or what it was before I encountered via American
television...


We had them in New Zealand, mainly in the country, mainly due to the
inadequacies of the network. That was in the days of exchanges being
operated manually.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old May 23rd 18, 06:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_7_]
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On 5/23/2018 12:33 AM, android wrote:


snip


only because you know you can't back up your claims.


You can't have to many backups...


The bus that did this to my car, had too many.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjyhdrxt7cmg150/IMG_0270.JPG?dl=0

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