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Put your Canon Glass to Use With Your iPhone!
On 5/21/2018 10:00 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 5/21/2018 8:06 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2018 14:36:56 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/20/2018 5:53 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:17:04 -0400, Davoud wrote: Eric Stevens: The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966 to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages can afford to share one. I would regard a community which had to pool their funds to buy a smartphone as poor. In such a community there is no hope for an individual who wants to buy a smartphone or camera. I think your comment is a bigoted reflection of your colonial heritage. Do you still believe in the white man's burden? I don't understand what you think your comment has to do with my comment about standards of poverty. I stand by my original statement that "The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone". That is an observation which has nothing at all to do with colonial heritage or the white man's burden. Please read again what you wrote. "In such a community there is NO HOPE......"* (emphasis supplied,) Perhaps you did not mean that, but that's how it sounded to me. ...and maybe then he might complete the loop and relate it to the reuse of one's "Cannon Glass." ~~ Truly, "Canon glass" reused on "iPhones" is a first world "thing" at best. ~~ ~~ ( Ah, the oddities of thread drift! ) ;-) -- == Later... Ron C -- |
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On Mon, 21 May 2018 20:00:32 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph. And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy. then they won't be choosing which one to buy, will they? Changing the subject again. nope. as usual, you completely miss the point. The problem is that you have selected a point different from that at this part of the thread. I am happy to leave you with it. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph. And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy. then they won't be choosing which one to buy, will they? Changing the subject again. nope. as usual, you completely miss the point. The problem is that you have selected a point different from that at this part of the thread. nope. I am happy to leave you with it. only because you know you can't back up your claims. |
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On Mon, 21 May 2018 22:00:47 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 5/21/2018 8:06 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2018 14:36:56 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/20/2018 5:53 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:17:04 -0400, Davoud wrote: Eric Stevens: The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966 to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages can afford to share one. I would regard a community which had to pool their funds to buy a smartphone as poor. In such a community there is no hope for an individual who wants to buy a smartphone or camera. I think your comment is a bigoted reflection of your colonial heritage. Do you still believe in the white man's burden? I don't understand what you think your comment has to do with my comment about standards of poverty. I stand by my original statement that "The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone". That is an observation which has nothing at all to do with colonial heritage or the white man's burden. Please read again what you wrote. "In such a community there is NO HOPE......" (emphasis supplied,) Perhaps you did not mean that, but that's how it sounded to me. What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the same way that in the majority of communities around the world no single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing 777. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Eric Stevens:
What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the same way that in the majority of communities around the world no single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing 777. What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live? -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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On 2018-05-23 00:42:48 +0000, Davoud said:
Eric Stevens: What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the same way that in the majority of communities around the world no single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing 777. What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live? I have a very hard time deciding what jumbo I'm not going to by due to lack of founds. Charing a smartphone in a rural community is not stranger than having a partyline telephone connection. Something that I did not knew existed or what it was before I encountered via American television... -- teleportation kills |
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On 2018-05-22 23:02:30 +0000, nospam said:
In article , Eric Stevens wrote: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph. And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy. then they won't be choosing which one to buy, will they? Changing the subject again. nope. as usual, you completely miss the point. The problem is that you have selected a point different from that at this part of the thread. nope. I am happy to leave you with it. only because you know you can't back up your claims. You can't have to many backups... -- teleportation kills |
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On Tue, 22 May 2018 20:42:48 -0400, Davoud wrote:
Eric Stevens: What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the same way that in the majority of communities around the world no single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing 777. What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live? What exactly are you driving at? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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rOn Wed, 23 May 2018 06:32:35 +0200, android wrote:
On 2018-05-23 00:42:48 +0000, Davoud said: Eric Stevens: What I meant that in such a poor society a single individual would not be able to muster the funds to buy a smartphone. Rather in much the same way that in the majority of communities around the world no single individual would be able to muster the funds to buy a Boeing 777. What I want to know is this: have you lived in the kind of poor society that you are talking about? Because if you have not, you are speculating. Guessing. "Visited" is not enough. Where did you live? I have a very hard time deciding what jumbo I'm not going to by due to lack of founds. Charing a smartphone in a rural community is not stranger than having a partyline telephone connection. Something that I did not knew existed or what it was before I encountered via American television... We had them in New Zealand, mainly in the country, mainly due to the inadequacies of the network. That was in the days of exchanges being operated manually. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 5/23/2018 12:33 AM, android wrote:
snip only because you know you can't back up your claims. You can't have to many backups... The bus that did this to my car, had too many. https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjyhdrxt7cmg150/IMG_0270.JPG?dl=0 -- PeterN |
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