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Salute to Lady Liberty - an exercise
On 6/8/2016 3:40 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-08 16:17:31 +0000, PeterN said: Monday I was on a harbor cruise courtesy of Canon and B&H. Nobody expected this, but I have not been able to convey the feeling of the moment. To my eye the water from the fireboat looks dirty, though I do like the misty, soft effect, this is the best I could come up with. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.jpg The RAW file: Please don't tell me about the dirt on the sensor. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.NEF Well here is one rendition. ...with the dust spots fixed. (you really need to clean that sensor) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/PN_harbor%20cruise_3497-1Ec.jpg The sensor has already been cleaned. To my eye the land and ship lights are distracting. I am trying to get the water not looking so dirty. -- PeterN |
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Salute to Lady Liberty - an exercise
On 6/8/2016 3:42 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 15:12:43 -0400, Ken Hart wrote: On 06/08/2016 12:17 PM, PeterN wrote: Monday I was on a harbor cruise courtesy of Canon and B&H. Nobody expected this, but I have not been able to convey the feeling of the moment. To my eye the water from the fireboat looks dirty, though I do like the misty, soft effect, this is the best I could come up with. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.jpg The RAW file: Please don't tell me about the dirt on the sensor. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.NEF In my opinion, that is a very strong photo. (I will not discuss technical aspects, as others here are more qualified to comment on sharpening, etc. My monitor is what it is: not calibrated to anything other than my preference. My comments are on composition.) While the boat is centered left-to-right (boring), Liberty is looking to the left, where you left more space for her gaze. If Liberty weren't there and the photo was simply of the boat, the photo would be just another snapshot. Offsetting Liberty and providing more space for her look makes it stronger. Everything about the photo directs the viewer's gaze "over there". The brightest sky is behind her crown and torch, accenting them more, and drawing the eye to Liberty. The high jets of water to the right seal off that side of the photo. The three jets to the left are aimed in the direction of her gaze. The straight-up jets near the center break up a bit of the sky. It is a powerful photo of a national icon. After Messrs Cooper and Duck tell you how to correct the technical aspects, you should display/compete this photo. Don't muck it up! Cooper - this one - doesn't do that. I am not one who normally re-works someone else's photographs, and I really don't like it done to mine. I do make exceptions, but not often. What I will do is critique a photograph. I could critique this one, but I suspect that this was a shot that was only available briefly and from a limited perspective. It would have been a better shot if wider - much wider - so the water streams were completely within the frame. I have much wider versions. That would require the photographer to either be further away or have a wider lens in place. Peter couldn't very well steer the ferry away, and may not have had the time or ability to put on a wider lens. Fortunately I had the time, and the lens. I was using my 28-300. As I said in my reply to Ken Hart, this was a photo cruise, and we made several passes at that scene. The problem with my wider angle shots is that there wee other boats in the area that I did not want in the scene. Also, as you probably know, I have a strong preference for tighter shots. Here, I have the luxury of multiple shots to pick from. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/Doc1.pdf BTW did you notice that there were no birds flying that night. ;-) Sometimes we have to take what we can get, and that can be a pretty good result. True. -- PeterN |
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Salute to Lady Liberty - an exercise
On 6/8/2016 4:21 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/8/2016 12:17 PM, PeterN wrote: Monday I was on a harbor cruise courtesy of Canon and B&H. Nobody expected this, but I have not been able to convey the feeling of the moment. To my eye the water from the fireboat looks dirty, though I do like the misty, soft effect, this is the best I could come up with. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.jpg The RAW file: Please don't tell me about the dirt on the sensor. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.NEF I like it. The clearest elements in the picture are Lady Liberty and the flag, the balance is good, and even the yellowish color gamut adds a nice touch. Good going! Thank you. -- PeterN |
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Salute to Lady Liberty - an exercise
On 2016-06-08 21:26:50 +0000, PeterN said:
On 6/8/2016 3:40 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2016-06-08 16:17:31 +0000, PeterN said: Monday I was on a harbor cruise courtesy of Canon and B&H. Nobody expected this, but I have not been able to convey the feeling of the moment. To my eye the water from the fireboat looks dirty, though I do like the misty, soft effect, this is the best I could come up with. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.jpg The RAW file: Please don't tell me about the dirt on the sensor. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.NEF Well here is one rendition. ...with the dust spots fixed. (you really need to clean that sensor) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/PN_harbor%20cruise_3497-1Ec.jpg The sensor has already been cleaned. After this shoot? To my eye the land and ship lights are distracting. That isn't my take in that capture. I am trying to get the water not looking so dirty. Why? It's NYC harbor, not Lake Tahoe. ....and it isn't too bad in this image. Anyway here is rendition #2: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497-E2.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Salute to Lady Liberty - an exercise
On 6/8/2016 6:49 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-08 21:26:50 +0000, PeterN said: On 6/8/2016 3:40 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2016-06-08 16:17:31 +0000, PeterN said: Monday I was on a harbor cruise courtesy of Canon and B&H. Nobody expected this, but I have not been able to convey the feeling of the moment. To my eye the water from the fireboat looks dirty, though I do like the misty, soft effect, this is the best I could come up with. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.jpg The RAW file: Please don't tell me about the dirt on the sensor. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.NEF Well here is one rendition. ...with the dust spots fixed. (you really need to clean that sensor) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/PN_harbor%20cruise_3497-1Ec.jpg The sensor has already been cleaned. After this shoot? To my eye the land and ship lights are distracting. That isn't my take in that capture. I am trying to get the water not looking so dirty. Why? It's NYC harbor, not Lake Tahoe. ...and it isn't too bad in this image. Anyway here is rendition #2: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497-E2.jpg I like this version too. The flag seems clearer. I also like the composition like I said earlier. Thanks. Tim |
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Salute to Lady Liberty - an exercise
On 6/8/2016 6:49 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-08 21:26:50 +0000, PeterN said: On 6/8/2016 3:40 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2016-06-08 16:17:31 +0000, PeterN said: Monday I was on a harbor cruise courtesy of Canon and B&H. Nobody expected this, but I have not been able to convey the feeling of the moment. To my eye the water from the fireboat looks dirty, though I do like the misty, soft effect, this is the best I could come up with. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.jpg The RAW file: Please don't tell me about the dirt on the sensor. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.NEF Well here is one rendition. ...with the dust spots fixed. (you really need to clean that sensor) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/PN_harbor%20cruise_3497-1Ec.jpg The sensor has already been cleaned. After this shoot? Yep. To my eye the land and ship lights are distracting. That isn't my take in that capture. It would indeed be boring if we all liked the same things. There is no right or wrong in image presentation. I am trying to get the water not looking so dirty. Why? It's NYC harbor, not Lake Tahoe. ...and it isn't too bad in this image. I'm trying to photographically convey what I felt when I was watching the scene unfold. One of the photographers on the boat stated that he had been shooting the harbor for over ten years and had never seen the fireboat putting on its display near the Statue at sunset. My guess that the display was in commemoration of D Day. The boat captain said he did not know it would happen. The display was indeed a complete, and pleasant surprise to all. Anyway here is rendition #2: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497-E2.jpg Better, but I still don't like the lights. -- PeterN |
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Salute to Lady Liberty - an exercise
On 6/8/2016 2:05 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:17:31 -0400, PeterN wrote: Monday I was on a harbor cruise courtesy of Canon and B&H. Nobody expected this, but I have not been able to convey the feeling of the moment. To my eye the water from the fireboat looks dirty, though I do like the misty, soft effect, this is the best I could come up with. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.jpg The RAW file: Please don't tell me about the dirt on the sensor. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20160606_harbor%20cruise_3497.NEF I'm bored, so here's the dehaze filter, among other things: https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/Pe1tum As I said earlier, I want the soft effect of the fog. I don't really like the way it turned out, but it's different from the original, even if it's not better... Why the high ISO, BTW? Low light shooting from a boat, and the lens is a 28-300. I needed a high speed. -- PeterN |
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