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Calumet files Chapter 7
In article , nospam wrote:
Tony Cooper: What he ignores is that in *all* purchases online, there is no sales help available. Any help the customer gets at a retail store is more than what any online seller offers. If nothing else, the buyer at a retail store gets to handle the camera before purchase. false. some online sellers have a *lot* of sales help on their site, including extensive faqs, video demos, wizards that ask questions to narrow down the choices, phone support and even online chat for questions, user reviews and links to other information. Oh, poor Tony, who made such a huge deal out of his claim that you had "ignored" this "fact". -- Sandman[.net] |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
On 4/1/2014 5:35 PM, nospam wrote:
snip this isn't just camera stores either. bookstores are going away because people are now buying ebooks. many other types of stores are downsizing or going away. stores need to adapt to the changes or they won't be around for very long. Sit down now! I agree with you. That said, I know of a specialty bookstore that sell for full list, and his business is good. Not great, but good. If you ask where a particular book is, the clerk won't just say aisle x. You will be taken to that location, and shown the book and related titles. People feel the personal service is worth the extra price. that store is a leading place to get antique and collectibles. They sell only children's, and fantasy books. So yes, you have to do something that the others are not doing. -- PeterN |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
On 3/31/2014 10:33 AM, PAS wrote:
I'll be in the Dominican Republic for a week before this event in Mass. Honestly, I'd rather be in Mass than the Dominican Republic. I'm not one for sun, sand, and surf. I'd rather be indoors where it's cool or in the shade. To use an old phrase. "Happy wife, happy life." Enjoy the DR. I've heard there's lots of good shooting there, especially one hour before and after, sunset and sunrise. -- PeterN |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
On 4/1/2014 8:56 AM, Neil Ellwood wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:04:40 +0000, Sandman wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: Sandman: Sandman: There is none to look at that meet that criteria. Tony Cooper: Here's one for you, then. "There is none..." is a gross error. Sandman: "gross", huh? I'm way past at taking you at face value, so you need more than just a claim here, Andreas. What? You need some "substantiation" that it should be "There are none..."? I actually missed that, I thought it was "none" you were in reference to, which sort of speaks to how low your credibility with regards to English is and how any comment you make about it will be doubted until you give anything substantial. I'm still baffled about the "gross" part though, but that's just you trolling though. Tony Cooper: If I adopted your juvenile style of writing, I'd add "Hilarious", "haha", or "Ironic". Sandman: Poor Andreas. I thought you claimed expert English. You shouldn't be baffled. The pontificating popinjay just wants free English grammar lessons. He refuses to learn, and discussion is pointless. -- PeterN |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
On 4/1/2014 9:44 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On 1 Apr 2014 08:00:42 GMT, Sandman wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: But, no, I don't think your error was "unforgiving"[sic]. Nor is it unforgivable. (Funny how "Ironic" comes and bites you in the ass.) How so? I am not posting spelling and grammar flames, and I am fully aware that I make such mistakes, so no irony to bite my ass here. Only guys like you that has some form of pride invested in these matters and post spelling/grammar flames are subject to the irony when you make errors yourself. Did you miss yet another point? The error is not capable of forgiving. It may be forgiven, or forgivable, but it can't be an unforgiving error. Now, do your usual weasel word waltz and explain how you didn't make a mistake. Error Flynn was quite forgiving, especially of the sins of young wenches. (not to be confused with monkey wench benobo chimps.) -- PeterN |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
In article , Tony Cooper wrote:
Tony Cooper: What he ignores is that in *all* purchases online, there is no sales help available. Any help the customer gets at a retail store is more than what any online seller offers. If nothing else, the buyer at a retail store gets to handle the camera before purchase. nospam: false. some online sellers have a *lot* of sales help on their site, including extensive faqs, video demos, wizards that ask questions to narrow down the choices, phone support and even online chat for questions, user reviews and links to other information. Sandman: Oh, poor Tony, who made such a huge deal out of his claim that you had "ignored" this "fact". What? Yes, he ignored it in the original post. ....says the illiterate old guy from Florida. -- Sandman[.net] |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
In article , Tony Cooper wrote:
Tony Cooper: nospam goes into every discussion thinking that his position is the only right position. nospam: everyone does that. that's what drives discussions. who goes into a discussion thinking that they're wrong?? You could respond to what I said, not what I didn't say. I don't phrase my comments without thought. Hehe There's a vast difference between thinking you are right and thinking that your position is the *only* right position. When there are options of ways to do things, there is often more than one right way to do them. How did that change nospam's reply, Tony? If he would have said: "who goes into a discussion thinking their position is wrong?" It wouldn't have changed his meaning at all. No one does that. Humble and mature people can have their position swayed when proof and substantiations are brought forward, and then we have people like you, who will argue your position for days no matter how insane it is. nospam: false. some online sellers have a *lot* of sales help on their site, including extensive faqs, video demos, wizards that ask questions to narrow down the choices, phone support and even online chat for questions, user reviews and links to other information. some sellers have very generous return policies so you can buy and handle the product with no risk, other than having to ship it back if you don't like it, which is nothing more than a quick trip to the post office. Tony Cooper: It's always the buyer's responsibility to do their own homework. There's no reason the in-store buyer can't check the reviews and customer ratings of something before they make the purchase. nospam: nobody said they can't do that, but most people don't. If that's true, then all that "online help" above isn't going to be taken advantage of either. Why not? It is found in direct relation to the product they're vieweing online. Checking reviews and ratings *before* you enter a store isn't really a smooth buyer experience. I don't know how you come to the conclusion about "most people", though. It's that kind of hand-waving hyperbole that's a turn-off. Yeah... Tony Cooper 10/20/2013 "They are called "bridge cameras". If you write "bridges", most people would understand what you mean." Tony Cooper 08/17/2013 "Most people wouldn't have to move anything prior to import, but the suggestion was made to someone who has accumulated 32,000 images with what I consider to be a rather cumbersome folder/file naming system." Tony Cooper 08/11/2013 "Adopting the catch phrase associated with bullies is not exactly what most people would want to do." Tony Cooper Fireworks 07/07/2013 "Most people just include the burst, and that's overdone." Tony Cooper 05/31/2013 "Oh. Well, so what? It's an establishing shot that is one of a series. Not one that most people would look at closely." There's more, of course, but still - what a "turn off"! Tony Cooper: He won't be able to. That's typical hyperbole from nospam. nospam: i am *always* able to back up what i say. as i said in another post, i was looking for a lens case and a local store had one for around $30 and b&h had it for $17 or so (i don't remember exact prices). that's about double. So a $10 difference, after shipping charges, of one item establishes that camera stores charge double? And, you had to wait for delivery. What if you needed it today? What if what is offered online is a knock-off product from China that isn't as good a quality? Tony working hard to make it seem the prices quoted aren't "about double" by adding unrelated parameters. And now B&H sells low-quality knock-offs from China? It all comes around to my position that there is often more than one "right" way to do things. As long as it's not nospam's way to do things, that is. That can never be right, no matter what. Buying online can be the right thing and buying from a store can be the right thing. You can't discount other people's preferences just because they aren't yours. I suppose this is where you should be quoting nospam discounting other people's preferences? Slightly off-topic...the father of one of the boys on my grandson's Babe Ruth baseball team recently purchased a Canon 70D with a 18-135 lens from Best Buy. He showed me the receipt, and it was almost $2,000 with bag, two 32 gig cards, bag, and some sort of extended warranty. He doesn't know what "RAW" is, he shoots on whatever Canon's Auto setting is, he doesn't know what ISO is, and he has no idea how to capture sports scenes. Did he do the right thing? Not from my perspective, but he's happy. It was right for him. What does "right" have to do with it? It's his money and no one but himself can judge whether he spent them wisely. Not being knowledgable about camera details does not make this an "incorrect" purchase, for all we know, he has always nurtured a desire to learn more about it, in which case a 70D is a perfectly good choice. -- Sandman[.net] |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
In article , PeterN wrote:
Neil Ellwood: I thought you claimed expert English. You shouldn't be baffled. The pontificating popinjay just wants free English grammar lessons. He refuses to learn, and discussion is pointless. When did you ever discuss anything, Peter? -- Sandman[.net] |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:52:27 +0000, Sandman wrote:
In article , Neil Ellwood wrote: Sandman: I actually missed that, I thought it was "none" you were in reference to, which sort of speaks to how low your credibility with regards to English is and how any comment you make about it will be doubted until you give anything substantial. I'm still baffled about the "gross" part though, but that's just you trolling though. Tony Cooper: Use that dictionary you keep copy/pasting from: gross = unattractively large or bloated. Sandman: I am perfectly aware of the meaning of the word "gross", which is why I am baffled by your misuse of it. Accidentally writing "is" when one should have written "are" is pretty much one of the tiniest and "non-bloated" ways to make a grammar mistake. That being said, a "gross" mistake is not something that is likened to being large or bloated, you picked the wrong definition. Words mean several things, and "gross" when used to describe a mistake is more aptly defined with the "vulgar, unrefined" part of the Oxford definition of the word, as opposed to something related to size. Or even the "complete, blatant" one. You are using an incorrect interpretation. 'Gross' in this context is an indefinite numerical simile. Tony has already claimed it was used to mean "unnattractively large or bloated", which is hardly indefinite. Even so, "gross" isn't used to mean "minor" or "slight", which "indefinite" would suggest is possible. "Gross" is used - when used as a numerical simlie, which Tony didn't - to denote something above or more than ordinary. It can be used to be the opposite of detailed as well. Sandman: In this case, either definition is equally ill-fitted though, which is why you used it of course. And that is why you are wrong. You just can't put into words why. And you don't understand what you are arguing about. You should read what people are telling you and not make up your own explanations, -- Neil Reverse ‘a’ and ‘r’ Remove ‘l’ to get address. |
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Calumet files Chapter 7
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 07:59:47 +0000, Sandman wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: Neil Ellwood: I thought you claimed expert English. You shouldn't be baffled. The pontificating popinjay just wants free English grammar lessons. He refuses to learn, and discussion is pointless. When did you ever discuss anything, Peter? Go back to the beginning of this thread and re-read it all through very carefully. -- Neil Reverse ‘a’ and ‘r’ Remove ‘l’ to get address. |
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