FA: Canon EOS 5D

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Mark wrote:
http://snipr.com/CanonEOS5D

I have no interest in purchasing a canon eos5d. I would love to use one
for a while, but my photographic interests could never justify such a
purchase.
However, if I were to have such an interest I'm sure bidding for one on
ebay would be the ideal way to go, after touring the neighborhood to
make sure there wasn't a yard sale on one somewhere.
Dave Cohen

"Dave Cohen" wrote in message
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Mark wrote:
http://snipr.com/CanonEOS5D

I have no interest in purchasing a canon eos5d. I would love to use one
for a while, but my photographic interests could never justify such a
purchase.

A year ago when the double-rebates were on I had a 5D for a while but sold
on ebay it as it was not going to replace my 1D (a used 1D2N did that, for
the same price) and the lack of a pop-up flash didn't make it a good general
use walk-around camera (my old 300D does that OK). However, IMO, the IQ on
the 5D was bettered only by the 1D3 or 1Ds2 so I wouldn't mind having one
for occasional use if the price was say $1000. Of course for the studio pro
who can't justify a 1Ds2 and/or doesn't need the build-quality of a 1-series
body, it is the best available camera, even for a lot of people with Nikon
glass.

just bob kilbyfan@aoldotcom wrote:

A year ago when the double-rebates were on I had a 5D for a while but sold
on ebay it as it was not going to replace my 1D (a used 1D2N did that, for
the same price) and the lack of a pop-up flash didn't make it a good general
use walk-around camera (my old 300D does that OK).

Fancy that! I think I've used the pop-up flash maybe three times,
twice to just see if it worked and once to check for that old
"streaks" bug.

If I need flash, I can just as well use a swivel and tilt flash
head with enough power for bouncing.

-Wolfgang

Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
just bob kilbyfan@aoldotcom wrote:

A year ago when the double-rebates were on I had a 5D for a while but sold
on ebay it as it was not going to replace my 1D (a used 1D2N did that, for
the same price) and the lack of a pop-up flash didn't make it a good general
use walk-around camera (my old 300D does that OK).

Fancy that! I think I've used the pop-up flash maybe three times,
twice to just see if it worked and once to check for that old
"streaks" bug.

If I need flash, I can just as well use a swivel and tilt flash
head with enough power for bouncing.

Lugging an accessory flash around for occasional use for
catch light or fill flash is a PITA.
Hasselblad put a pop-up flash in the H3d - if it's okay to
put such an "amateur" feature in that camera, then IMO it's
a cop-out for Canon and Nikon not to include a pop-up flash
in their pro cameras.

On Sep 6, 3:41 am, frederick wrote:
Lugging an accessory flash around for occasional use for
catch light or fill flash is a PITA.
Hasselblad put a pop-up flash in the H3d - if it's okay to
put such an "amateur" feature in that camera, then IMO it's
a cop-out for Canon and Nikon not to include a pop-up flash
in their pro cameras.

That may be true, but I personally would prefer it if my D200 had no
flash. I've used it only to check that it works (I don't like flash,
and don't know how to use fill-in flash effectively anyway-I don't
want to learn either, I'm afraid). I cycle at least 10-15km every day
with the camera hanging from its strap on my side, and it's happened
that I popped it up by mistake without realising it. It also happened
once while putting it in a bag. If that happens and I manage to break
it, the camera will have to be sent for repairs! So I'd rather it
didn't have it (or at least had some way of locking it down)... I
mean, the camera is an absolute tank, but it can become almost useless
just by shearing off a little plastic popup flash, supported by two
plastic legs... Stupid.

It has crossed my mind to just glue the thing closed...

"frederick" wrote in message
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
just bob kilbyfan@aoldotcom wrote:

A year ago when the double-rebates were on I had a 5D for a while but
sold on ebay it as it was not going to replace my 1D (a used 1D2N did
that, for the same price) and the lack of a pop-up flash didn't make it
a good general use walk-around camera (my old 300D does that OK).

Fancy that! I think I've used the pop-up flash maybe three times,
twice to just see if it worked and once to check for that old
"streaks" bug.

If I need flash, I can just as well use a swivel and tilt flash
head with enough power for bouncing.

Lugging an accessory flash around for occasional use for catch light or
fill flash is a PITA.
Hasselblad put a pop-up flash in the H3d - if it's okay to put such an
"amateur" feature in that camera, then IMO it's a cop-out for Canon and
Nikon not to include a pop-up flash in their pro cameras.


No, pop up flash sucks for everything except sucky family shots from sucky
photographers. Period. I have the D200, and wouldn't use the pop up except
for shots I could give two ****s about (even then, I'd just up the ISO). If
you want pop up flash, shoot with point and shoots, otherwise, you're
wasting your time.

--
www.mattclara.com

"frederick" wrote in message
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Lugging an accessory flash around for occasional use for catch light or
fill flash is a PITA.
Hasselblad put a pop-up flash in the H3d - if it's okay to put such an
"amateur" feature in that camera, then IMO it's a cop-out for Canon and
Nikon not to include a pop-up flash in their pro cameras.

The puny built-in is no substitute for a full-size flash. It's ok as fill
outdoors or very well-lit indoors, but as a primary light source it's no
good.

Mark

frederick wrote:
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:

If I need flash, I can just as well use a swivel and tilt flash
head with enough power for bouncing.

Lugging an accessory flash around for occasional use for
catch light or fill flash is a PITA.

If a flash unit is too heavy, go use a compact camera with an
inbuild flash --- because an DSLR is even heavier and larger.

Hasselblad put a pop-up flash in the H3d - if it's okay to
put such an "amateur" feature in that camera, then IMO it's
a cop-out for Canon and Nikon not to include a pop-up flash
in their pro cameras.

Just because some people, who as ministers or judges should darn
well know that murder is wrong, commit the very same never the
less, is no reason for the other people to follow suit.

Or are you claimimg that Hasselblad cannot do wrong?

-Wolfgang

On Sep 5, 11:12 am, Dave Cohen wrote:
Mark wrote:
http://snipr.com/CanonEOS5D

I have no interest in purchasing a canon eos5d. I would love to use one
for a while, but my photographic interests could never justify such a
purchase.
However, if I were to have such an interest I'm sure bidding for one on
ebay would be the ideal way to go, after touring the neighborhood to
make sure there wasn't a yard sale on one somewhere.
Dave Cohen

Well you ARE in luck! Here is the neighbourhood where the garage
sales are held!! Dozens of "reputable" garage salers just for YOU!
http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/