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Old January 21st 18, 07:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David B.[_2_]
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Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World War.

Here is a copy of same:- https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW

How best can the image be improved?

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Old January 21st 18, 10:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Ken Hart[_4_]
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On 01/21/2018 01:10 PM, David B. wrote:
Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World War.

Here is a copy of same:-Â* https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW

How best can the image be improved?


First, scan it with a flatbed scanner rather than photographing it, so
you won't have the shadows.
Second, those creases may show up less depending on which way you turn
the photo in the scanner, so try four scans rotating the photo a
quarter-turn for each one. Pick the best.
Third, I've seen much worse photos than this one. You are lucky to have
one that has held up so well. Convert it to black and white, increase
the contrast just a bit, and use cloning to get rid of the creases. Or
just leave it as is- it's an old photo, let it look old.
Finally, make (or have made) good quality prints for both you and your
sister. Go to an art supply store and get a low-acid envelope (or other
container) for the original, and store it someplace safe for your
grandchildren.

--
Ken Hart

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Old January 21st 18, 11:43 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
philo
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On 01/21/2018 03:30 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 01/21/2018 01:10 PM, David B. wrote:
Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World
War.

Here is a copy of same:-Â* https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW

How best can the image be improved?


First, scan it with a flatbed scanner rather than photographing it, so
you won't have the shadows.
Second, those creases may show up less depending on which way you turn
the photo in the scanner, so try four scans rotating the photo a
quarter-turn for each one. Pick the best.
Third, I've seen much worse photos than this one. You are lucky to have
one that has held up so well. Convert it to black and white, increase
the contrast just a bit, and use cloning to get rid of the creases. Or
just leave it as is- it's an old photo, let it look old.
Finally, make (or have made) good quality prints for both you and your
sister. Go to an art supply store and get a low-acid envelope (or other
container) for the original, and store it someplace safe for your
grandchildren.




Excellent advice.

I agree. Fix it up a bit perhaps but do not over-do it.

Some imperfections will help show the age.


Were I doing it, I'd increase the contrast a bit and reduce the creases
and that would be about it.
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Old January 21st 18, 11:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , philo says...

On 01/21/2018 03:30 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 01/21/2018 01:10 PM, David B. wrote:
Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World
War.

Here is a copy of same:-* https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW


snip

Were I doing it, I'd increase the contrast a bit and reduce the

creases
and that would be about it.


Just wondering if there is a way to make the detail in the photo more
visible besides increasing the contrast. Some fancy image processibg,
not sure if that exists.

By the way, seems that the lens which was used to take this photo wasn't
of very high quality. Or perhaps it's the combination of the lens and
the printing process which further reduced the detail.
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Old January 22nd 18, 12:40 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 1/21/18 5:54 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , philo says...

On 01/21/2018 03:30 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 01/21/2018 01:10 PM, David B. wrote:
Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World
War.

Here is a copy of same:- https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW


snip

Were I doing it, I'd increase the contrast a bit and reduce the

creases
and that would be about it.


Just wondering if there is a way to make the detail in the photo more
visible besides increasing the contrast. Some fancy image processibg,
not sure if that exists.


image stability varies according to conditions,

for instance, if you knew the cycle of temperature, humidity, and light
exposure, you might be able to back out the keeping if you had an
original palette of the media and a palette of the media following the
same keeping conditions

might be a good invention to keep a small palette on an image and
original palette color data just for this purpose

next best thing would be some tuning "dials" from the media manufacturer
derived from typical keeping conditions

I might be coming at this from too much of an idealist point of view,
the "dials" might not have to be so specific to a media, just figure out
which "dials" fit best for ... stain, fade, etc.

hard to back out stain without selecting specific sections of an image,
hard to figure out what was somewhere when there was fade ...


By the way, seems that the lens which was used to take this photo wasn't
of very high quality. Or perhaps it's the combination of the lens and
the printing process which further reduced the detail.



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Old January 22nd 18, 04:18 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David B.[_2_]
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On 21/01/2018 22:43, philo wrote:
On 01/21/2018 03:30 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 01/21/2018 01:10 PM, David B. wrote:
Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World
War.

Here is a copy of same:-Â* https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW

How best can the image be improved?


First, scan it with a flatbed scanner rather than photographing it, so
you won't have the shadows.
Second, those creases may show up less depending on which way you turn
the photo in the scanner, so try four scans rotating the photo a
quarter-turn for each one. Pick the best.
Third, I've seen much worse photos than this one. You are lucky to
have one that has held up so well. Convert it to black and white,
increase the contrast just a bit, and use cloning to get rid of the
creases. Or just leave it as is- it's an old photo, let it look old.
Finally, make (or have made) good quality prints for both you and your
sister. Go to an art supply store and get a low-acid envelope (or
other container) for the original, and store it someplace safe for
your grandchildren.




Excellent advice.

I agree. Fix it up a bit perhaps but do not over-do it.

Some imperfections will help show the age.


Were I doing it, I'd increase the contrast a bit and reduce the creases
and that would be about it.


It's good to read that you are in agreement with Ken! :-)

You have my permission to play with the image I've already posted should
you wish to do so.

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Old January 21st 18, 11:49 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Jan 21, 2018, Ken Hart wrote
(in article ):

On 01/21/2018 01:10 PM, David B. wrote:
Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World War.

Here is a copy of same:- https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW

How best can the image be improved?


First, scan it with a flatbed scanner rather than photographing it, so
you won't have the shadows.
Second, those creases may show up less depending on which way you turn
the photo in the scanner, so try four scans rotating the photo a
quarter-turn for each one. Pick the best.
Third, I've seen much worse photos than this one. You are lucky to have
one that has held up so well. Convert it to black and white, increase
the contrast just a bit, and use cloning to get rid of the creases. Or
just leave it as is- it's an old photo, let it look old.
Finally, make (or have made) good quality prints for both you and your
sister. Go to an art supply store and get a low-acid envelope (or other
container) for the original, and store it someplace safe for your
grandchildren.


Here is a fix from a flatbed scan.
The big caveat is to be patient and meticulous with all the correction work
in PS, and use layers.

Original scan with fix:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jsx3yqdarmf39js/screenshot_275.png

Fix without matte:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uoci40wrucsolgl/E-05AACV1440.jpg

Fix with matte:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yjkbwdw0xg71x0b/E-05AACV1200.jpg

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Regards,
Savageduck

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Old January 22nd 18, 01:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Ken Hart
wrote:

Second, those creases may show up less depending on which way you turn
the photo in the scanner, so try four scans rotating the photo a
quarter-turn for each one. Pick the best.


even if that did make a difference (it won't), only two orientations
would be needed.
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Old January 22nd 18, 04:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David B.[_2_]
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On 21/01/2018 21:30, Ken Hart wrote:
On 01/21/2018 01:10 PM, David B. wrote:
Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World
War.

Here is a copy of same:-Â* https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW

How best can the image be improved?


First, scan it with a flatbed scanner rather than photographing it, so
you won't have the shadows.
Second, those creases may show up less depending on which way you turn
the photo in the scanner, so try four scans rotating the photo a
quarter-turn for each one. Pick the best.
Third, I've seen much worse photos than this one. You are lucky to have
one that has held up so well. Convert it to black and white, increase
the contrast just a bit, and use cloning to get rid of the creases. Or
just leave it as is- it's an old photo, let it look old.
Finally, make (or have made) good quality prints for both you and your
sister. Go to an art supply store and get a low-acid envelope (or other
container) for the original, and store it someplace safe for your
grandchildren.


I appreciate your comments, Ken.

Thanks. :-)
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Old January 22nd 18, 06:12 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2018-01-21 18:10:00 +0000, David B. said:

Hi

My elderly sister managed to send me a photograph today of our
grandfather. It was taken before he was killed during the first World
War.

Here is a copy of same:- https://imgur.com/a/7XRdW

How best can the image be improved?


I'm soo sorry for your loss! You're with no doubt a troll and that file
is useless! But you could try the free version off Fotor Photo Editor
provided that you could get a better scan of the original. It seems to
have some useless features. Report back to the group and let us know
how it goes...

https://itunes.apple.com/se/app/foto...729?l=en&mt=12
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