zone VI meters

Oops - spoke too soon. Forgot to check stock availability. Calumet say
they are unavailable at main warehouse. So, sounds like they're selling off
existing stock. Too bad. Probably a lot of them out there though.

"Alecj" wrote in message
.. .
"But I think we agree on everything: Zone System sticker can be bought
separately, Zove VI Studios sticker can not."

In the interests of accuracy, may I suggest this alternative: The Zone VI
sticker with various zones printed on it can be bought separately. The
"Modified by Zone VI Studios" sticker cannot - it only comes with a
meter."

The reason is the older zone stickers ALSO had "Zone VI Studios" on them
[Calumet has since dropped that]. But, just when you think you've got it
tied down, Richard Ritter comes through and says he's seen some modified
Pentax digital meters WITHOUT the "Modified by ..." sticker. He didn't
say
how he thinks they originated.

I had heard Pentax had discontinued the meter, and that Calumet had also.
However, I just checked the Calumet site and they're still listed there -
for $580. The zone stickers for them are there too - $3.

"Severi Salminen" wrote in message
...
BEllis60 wrote:

I said:
There were two stickers that Zone VI Studios used. One is the
zone
system

sticker. This was the sticker Tim was talking about .

Severi S said
: No he was not, please re-read.

I did re-read. I don't know what messages you're reading but what I
saw
was
the following statment from Tim:

Yes, I actually twisted my brains myself when trying to set you straight
But I think we agree on everything: Zone System sticker can be bought
separately, Zove VI Studios sticker can not. David asked some other
identification than the Zone VI Studios sticker and Tim answered by
referring incorrectly to the Zone System sticker. So the original
question is still unanswered

Severi S.

"Alecj" wrote in message
.. .
Oops - spoke too soon. Forgot to check stock availability. Calumet say
they are unavailable at main warehouse. So, sounds like they're selling
off
existing stock. Too bad. Probably a lot of them out there though.

Not necessarily. Calumet has decided to discontinue a lot of darkroom and
analog equipment in their retail stores, but they still sell it on the
internet from their warehouse. So that by itself does not mean that the
product is no longer available.

You didn't read closely. I said the WAREHOUSE doesn't have it. B&H no
longer shows it either. That isn't a good sign.

"Mark A" wrote in message
...
"Alecj" wrote in message
.. .
Oops - spoke too soon. Forgot to check stock availability. Calumet say
they are unavailable at main warehouse. So, sounds like they're selling
off
existing stock. Too bad. Probably a lot of them out there though.

Not necessarily. Calumet has decided to discontinue a lot of darkroom and
analog equipment in their retail stores, but they still sell it on the
internet from their warehouse. So that by itself does not mean that the
product is no longer available.

\Do you have an address for Richard Ritter? The name is new to me.
^Thanks.

On 06 Mar 2004 16:27:35 GMT, (BBarlow690) wrote:

A couple items of note.

I don't believe Richard Ritter did the mods for Calumet. Don't know if
Calumet dropped modified meters.

Richard modifies meters, repairs broken ones, and calibrates meters that have
gone out of whack (they do from time to time - he recently found mine to be a
half-stop off).

As far as changing ASA for a modified meter, take nothing for granted. Test
for ASA and development time yourself, so that you know what they are for your
meter, camera, developer, film, AND paper and paper developer. Two simple
tests and you'll have it forever. Or at least until you change materials or
want to try something new.

Bruce Barlow
www.finefocusworkshops.com

http://www.lg4mat.net/

"Morton Klotz" wrote in message
...
\Do you have an address for Richard Ritter? The name is new to me.
^Thanks.

On 06 Mar 2004 16:27:35 GMT, (BBarlow690) wrote:

A couple items of note.

I don't believe Richard Ritter did the mods for Calumet. Don't know if
Calumet dropped modified meters.

Richard modifies meters, repairs broken ones, and calibrates meters that
have
gone out of whack (they do from time to time - he recently found mine to
be a
half-stop off).

As far as changing ASA for a modified meter, take nothing for granted.
Test
for ASA and development time yourself, so that you know what they are for
your
meter, camera, developer, film, AND paper and paper developer. Two
simple
tests and you'll have it forever. Or at least until you change materials
or
want to try something new.

Bruce Barlow
www.finefocusworkshops.com

The only way to really tell if a meter is modified
is to open the meters up. I have worked on meters
that other people have opened up and lost or
broken the filters that were part if the
modification. Stickers they do come off. Calumet
put the stickers were you grab the meter a
placement that see a lot of handling. I have seem
meters with out the stickers. When I modified the
meters for Zone Vi there was a mark put in the
meter. I have seem these and Calumets with out
stickers. Best thing to do is keep the paper work
that said the meter was modified or have it
checked by someone who knows what they are doing.

As to telling sometimes you can see a magenta spot
in the center of the lens. This is from one of the
filters. Its very hard to see.

The only thing I do is repair the meters and
calibrate them.

One other thing people get wrong about this meter.
Allot of people say this meter is only for black
and white film. Wrong. It has a color correction
filter in it to help it see color better and more
correctly. There are are allot of photographers
that use this meter mainly for color. Fred was not
aware that when the meter was being developed that
it was also being tested with color film.

Richard Ritter

www.lg4mat.net
www.finefocusworkshops.com


Alecj wrote:

http://www.lg4mat.net/

"Morton Klotz" wrote in message
...
\Do you have an address for Richard Ritter? The name is new to me.
^Thanks.

On 06 Mar 2004 16:27:35 GMT, (BBarlow690) wrote:

A couple items of note.

I don't believe Richard Ritter did the mods for Calumet. Don't know if
Calumet dropped modified meters.

Richard modifies meters, repairs broken ones, and calibrates meters that
have
gone out of whack (they do from time to time - he recently found mine to
be a
half-stop off).

As far as changing ASA for a modified meter, take nothing for granted.
Test
for ASA and development time yourself, so that you know what they are for
your
meter, camera, developer, film, AND paper and paper developer. Two
simple
tests and you'll have it forever. Or at least until you change materials
or
want to try something new.

Bruce Barlow
www.finefocusworkshops.com