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Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF vs. Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XRDi Lenses



 
 
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Old April 10th 05, 12:20 AM
Clyde Torres
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Default Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF vs. Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XRDi Lenses

Zoom Telephoto AF VR Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6G Autofocus
Lens, black, Imported, out of stock, $99.95


This lens isn't very good. The G means no aperture control on the
lens (use the control on the camera instead) and there's nothing wrong
with that as long as you're only using AF cameras which have that
control. It's just this particular lens is not very good.


Zoom Telephoto AF Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED Autofocus Lens,
Imported, $279.95


Better version of the above lens, reasonably compact and not too
expensive. This might be your best choice. The 70-200/2.8 etc. are
professional lenses and hard to take anywhere because of their size.


The above is advice given by Paul Rubin on an earlier post. I went to a
local store today to look at the 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF lens, and the
salesman showed it to me. He also showed me the Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3
XRDi lens, which he claims is MUCH BETTER than the Nikkor lens. I played
with both, and the Tamron seemed a little bit tighter (less slop), but I
know nothing about its optics and resultant photographic quality. Does
anyone here have any data or advice about the Tamron lens and its comparison
to the Nikkor lens? I normally wouldn't buy an aftermarket lens, but the
salesguy said that Nikon makes some surprisingly embarrassing lenses, and
Tamron is a major glass manufacturer. He also said that Tamron invented a
way to mold glass such that it is cheaper, smaller and better than unmolded
glass. I'm not sure if he's laying a sales line on me or not, and this is
why I need your advice. BOth lenses don't weigh much, but the Tamron lens
is smaller and lighter.

Thank you very much.

Clyde Torres


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Old April 10th 05, 12:37 AM
GTO
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The Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF lens is a fine lens. BTW, it is 4.0 to
5.6 and not 4.5 to 5.6! Sales people always want to sell you items that give
them a larger profit margin.

Gregor

"Clyde Torres" wrote in message
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Zoom Telephoto AF VR Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6G Autofocus
Lens, black, Imported, out of stock, $99.95


This lens isn't very good. The G means no aperture control on the
lens (use the control on the camera instead) and there's nothing wrong
with that as long as you're only using AF cameras which have that
control. It's just this particular lens is not very good.


Zoom Telephoto AF Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED Autofocus Lens,
Imported, $279.95


Better version of the above lens, reasonably compact and not too
expensive. This might be your best choice. The 70-200/2.8 etc. are
professional lenses and hard to take anywhere because of their size.


The above is advice given by Paul Rubin on an earlier post. I went to a
local store today to look at the 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF lens, and the
salesman showed it to me. He also showed me the Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3
XRDi lens, which he claims is MUCH BETTER than the Nikkor lens. I played
with both, and the Tamron seemed a little bit tighter (less slop), but I
know nothing about its optics and resultant photographic quality. Does
anyone here have any data or advice about the Tamron lens and its
comparison to the Nikkor lens? I normally wouldn't buy an aftermarket
lens, but the salesguy said that Nikon makes some surprisingly
embarrassing lenses, and Tamron is a major glass manufacturer. He also
said that Tamron invented a way to mold glass such that it is cheaper,
smaller and better than unmolded glass. I'm not sure if he's laying a
sales line on me or not, and this is why I need your advice. BOth lenses
don't weigh much, but the Tamron lens is smaller and lighter.

Thank you very much.

Clyde Torres



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Old April 10th 05, 12:45 AM
Clyde Torres
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"GTO" wrote in message
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The Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF lens is a fine lens. BTW, it is 4.0 to
5.6 and not 4.5 to 5.6! Sales people always want to sell you items that
give them a larger profit margin.

Gregor


You are absolutely correct, Gregor. It is a f/4-5.6 lens.

I agree that salespeople will always try to sell you either what will make
them the highest profit margin OR what they have in stock, whichever comes
first; thus, the reason for my post.

Simon


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Old April 10th 05, 12:45 AM
Clyde Torres
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"GTO" wrote in message
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The Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF lens is a fine lens. BTW, it is 4.0 to
5.6 and not 4.5 to 5.6! Sales people always want to sell you items that
give them a larger profit margin.

Gregor


You are absolutely correct, Gregor. It is a f/4-5.6 lens.

I agree that salespeople will always try to sell you either what will make
them the highest profit margin OR what they have in stock, whichever comes
first; thus, the reason for my post.

Simon


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Old April 10th 05, 12:45 AM
Clyde Torres
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"GTO" wrote in message
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The Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF lens is a fine lens. BTW, it is 4.0 to
5.6 and not 4.5 to 5.6! Sales people always want to sell you items that
give them a larger profit margin.

Gregor


You are absolutely correct, Gregor. It is a f/4-5.6 lens.

I agree that salespeople will always try to sell you either what will make
them the highest profit margin OR what they have in stock, whichever comes
first; thus, the reason for my post.

Simon


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Old April 10th 05, 01:28 AM
Tom Scales
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"Clyde Torres" wrote in message
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"GTO" wrote in message
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The Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF lens is a fine lens. BTW, it is 4.0 to
5.6 and not 4.5 to 5.6! Sales people always want to sell you items that
give them a larger profit margin.

Gregor


You are absolutely correct, Gregor. It is a f/4-5.6 lens.

I agree that salespeople will always try to sell you either what will make
them the highest profit margin OR what they have in stock, whichever comes
first; thus, the reason for my post.

Simon


I can't comment on the Tamron directly, but a 28-300 is unlikely to be a
better performer than a good 70-300.

I have the 70-300D and am very pleased with it.

Tom


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Old April 10th 05, 01:28 AM
Tom Scales
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"Clyde Torres" wrote in message
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"GTO" wrote in message
om...
The Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF lens is a fine lens. BTW, it is 4.0 to
5.6 and not 4.5 to 5.6! Sales people always want to sell you items that
give them a larger profit margin.

Gregor


You are absolutely correct, Gregor. It is a f/4-5.6 lens.

I agree that salespeople will always try to sell you either what will make
them the highest profit margin OR what they have in stock, whichever comes
first; thus, the reason for my post.

Simon


I can't comment on the Tamron directly, but a 28-300 is unlikely to be a
better performer than a good 70-300.

I have the 70-300D and am very pleased with it.

Tom


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Old April 10th 05, 02:28 AM
Ben Cramer
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"Clyde Torres" wrote in message
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Zoom Telephoto AF VR Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6G Autofocus
Lens, black, Imported, out of stock, $99.95


This lens isn't very good. The G means no aperture control on the
lens (use the control on the camera instead) and there's nothing wrong
with that as long as you're only using AF cameras which have that
control. It's just this particular lens is not very good.


Zoom Telephoto AF Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED Autofocus Lens,
Imported, $279.95


Better version of the above lens, reasonably compact and not too
expensive. This might be your best choice. The 70-200/2.8 etc. are
professional lenses and hard to take anywhere because of their size.


The above is advice given by Paul Rubin on an earlier post. I went to a
local store today to look at the 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF lens, and the
salesman showed it to me. He also showed me the Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3
XRDi lens, which he claims is MUCH BETTER than the Nikkor lens. I played
with both, and the Tamron seemed a little bit tighter (less slop), but I
know nothing about its optics and resultant photographic quality. Does
anyone here have any data or advice about the Tamron lens and its
comparison to the Nikkor lens? I normally wouldn't buy an aftermarket
lens, but the salesguy said that Nikon makes some surprisingly
embarrassing lenses, and Tamron is a major glass manufacturer. He also
said that Tamron invented a way to mold glass such that it is cheaper,
smaller and better than unmolded glass. I'm not sure if he's laying a
sales line on me or not, and this is why I need your advice. BOth lenses
don't weigh much, but the Tamron lens is smaller and lighter.

Thank you very much.

Clyde Torres

Hi Clyde

I have been using a Tamron 28-300 (non DI) for a couple of months. I bought
it in a rush one weekend as I left my 80-400 at home and needed a zoom with
reasonable reach.

I was very surprised with the quality of the images I got from the Tamron.
It has been my walk around lens ever since I bought it.

Have a look here
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/tamron/...63_xr_ld_if_di for some
sample shots with the DI version.

I found the non DI version is a little larger, heavier and seems more
robust. It also has the advantage of being able to be used on non Digital
SLRs as well.

Hope that helps.


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Old April 10th 05, 02:28 AM
Ben Cramer
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"Clyde Torres" wrote in message
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Zoom Telephoto AF VR Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6G Autofocus
Lens, black, Imported, out of stock, $99.95


This lens isn't very good. The G means no aperture control on the
lens (use the control on the camera instead) and there's nothing wrong
with that as long as you're only using AF cameras which have that
control. It's just this particular lens is not very good.


Zoom Telephoto AF Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED Autofocus Lens,
Imported, $279.95


Better version of the above lens, reasonably compact and not too
expensive. This might be your best choice. The 70-200/2.8 etc. are
professional lenses and hard to take anywhere because of their size.


The above is advice given by Paul Rubin on an earlier post. I went to a
local store today to look at the 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF lens, and the
salesman showed it to me. He also showed me the Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3
XRDi lens, which he claims is MUCH BETTER than the Nikkor lens. I played
with both, and the Tamron seemed a little bit tighter (less slop), but I
know nothing about its optics and resultant photographic quality. Does
anyone here have any data or advice about the Tamron lens and its
comparison to the Nikkor lens? I normally wouldn't buy an aftermarket
lens, but the salesguy said that Nikon makes some surprisingly
embarrassing lenses, and Tamron is a major glass manufacturer. He also
said that Tamron invented a way to mold glass such that it is cheaper,
smaller and better than unmolded glass. I'm not sure if he's laying a
sales line on me or not, and this is why I need your advice. BOth lenses
don't weigh much, but the Tamron lens is smaller and lighter.

Thank you very much.

Clyde Torres

Hi Clyde

I have been using a Tamron 28-300 (non DI) for a couple of months. I bought
it in a rush one weekend as I left my 80-400 at home and needed a zoom with
reasonable reach.

I was very surprised with the quality of the images I got from the Tamron.
It has been my walk around lens ever since I bought it.

Have a look here
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/tamron/...63_xr_ld_if_di for some
sample shots with the DI version.

I found the non DI version is a little larger, heavier and seems more
robust. It also has the advantage of being able to be used on non Digital
SLRs as well.

Hope that helps.


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Old April 10th 05, 02:49 AM
Sheldon
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"Clyde Torres" wrote in message
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Zoom Telephoto AF VR Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6G Autofocus
Lens, black, Imported, out of stock, $99.95


This lens isn't very good. The G means no aperture control on the
lens (use the control on the camera instead) and there's nothing wrong
with that as long as you're only using AF cameras which have that
control. It's just this particular lens is not very good.


Zoom Telephoto AF Zoom Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED Autofocus Lens,
Imported, $279.95


Better version of the above lens, reasonably compact and not too
expensive. This might be your best choice. The 70-200/2.8 etc. are
professional lenses and hard to take anywhere because of their size.


The above is advice given by Paul Rubin on an earlier post. I went to a
local store today to look at the 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF lens, and the
salesman showed it to me. He also showed me the Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3
XRDi lens, which he claims is MUCH BETTER than the Nikkor lens. I played
with both, and the Tamron seemed a little bit tighter (less slop), but I
know nothing about its optics and resultant photographic quality. Does
anyone here have any data or advice about the Tamron lens and its
comparison to the Nikkor lens? I normally wouldn't buy an aftermarket
lens, but the salesguy said that Nikon makes some surprisingly
embarrassing lenses, and Tamron is a major glass manufacturer. He also
said that Tamron invented a way to mold glass such that it is cheaper,
smaller and better than unmolded glass. I'm not sure if he's laying a
sales line on me or not, and this is why I need your advice. BOth lenses
don't weigh much, but the Tamron lens is smaller and lighter.

Thank you very much.

Clyde Torres

Bear in mind that the Nikon lens is specifically made for digital cameras
and will not cover the film area of a 35mm camera. So, having an aperture
adjustment on the lens is a moot point unless you want to use it on other
cameras. I have the Nikon lens and think it's very good, and the reviews
mostly say it's a bargain. In the past I've had many off-brand lenses and
found that no matter how they feel now, the Nikon lenses will generally stay
"tight" for a long time. I'm using lenses on my D70 that are 35 years old,
and all of them work just fine. My 80-200 was used professionally and
thrashed around for many years, and while the zoom mechanism has loosened
up, as far as using the ring to focus and zoom, there is absolutely no play
or wobble in the lens at all.


 




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