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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
Hi All,
Epson has announced the new 3800 large format printer. Details are at: http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=687 Cheers, Wayne Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Coordindinator of Studies, Multimedia and Photomedia, Australian Academy of Design Personal art site http://www.artinyourface.com/ |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
Hi All, Epson has announced the new 3800 large format printer. Details are at: http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=687 Seems to be sort of a scaled-down 4800 printer. -30 pounds lighter, and a smaller footprint, yet still does 17" wide. From the picture, it didn't appear to have the big paper-handling, though (large built-in roll feeder, and enclosed/expanding paper tray to handle full 17x22" sheets. Personally, one of the most attractive things about the 4800/4000 (I have the 4000) is it's industrial-strength build, and the built-in large-scale paper handling. Without that, it's value diminishes. That they limit it to 80ml ink carts is a bit troubling. Perhaps size was simply too limiting. The 4800 & up can take either 110ml or double that...with 220ml arts. -Huge capacity... The ability to print on glossy paper is a plus. We'll see... -MarkČ Cheers, Wayne Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Coordindinator of Studies, Multimedia and Photomedia, Australian Academy of Design Personal art site http://www.artinyourface.com/ -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
MarkČ wrote:
Seems to be sort of a scaled-down 4800 printer. -30 pounds lighter, and a smaller footprint, yet still does 17" wide. From the picture, it didn't appear to have the big paper-handling, though (large built-in roll feeder, and enclosed/expanding paper tray to handle full 17x22" sheets. Personally, one of the most attractive things about the 4800/4000 (I have the 4000) is it's industrial-strength build, and the built-in large-scale paper handling. Without that, it's value diminishes. That they limit it to 80ml ink carts is a bit troubling. Perhaps size was simply too limiting. The 4800 & up can take either 110ml or double that...with 220ml arts. -Huge capacity... The ability to print on glossy paper is a plus. We'll see... -MarkČ Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place for more choice. Cheers, Wayne -- Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes:
Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place for more choice. Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like a conspiracy that they've all refrained. |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
Paul Rubin wrote:
"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes: Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place for more choice. Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like a conspiracy that they've all refrained. The others nearly are continuous ink systems...with their 220ml carts. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
"MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number writes:
The others nearly are continuous ink systems...with their 220ml carts. Hmm, well I thought the idea of continuous ink is that you can use bulk ink without the manufacturer shaking fingers at you. Don't they charge a fortune for those carts? It looks like an 220ml Epson cart is around $85 discounted, or $386/liter, vs. about $25/liter for gallon bottles from refill places. |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
Paul Rubin wrote:
"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes: Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place for more choice. Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like a conspiracy that they've all refrained. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they sell printers to sell ink. Not long ago there was a Lexmark that cost more to refill than to buy including new ink. -- Ben Lyric of the week: "This the eighties and I'm down with the ladies" |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
Ben Thomas writes:
I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they sell printers to sell ink. Not long ago there was a Lexmark that cost more to refill than to buy including new ink. That's some throwaway consumer printer, not a large format printer some of which go into five figure price tags. |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
Paul Rubin wrote:
"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes: Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place for more choice. Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like a conspiracy that they've all refrained. HP's last results: $90 billion turnover $4.5 billion profit from selling ink and toner $1 billion profit from selling everything else |
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Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced
Paul Rubin wrote:
Ben Thomas writes: I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they sell printers to sell ink. Not long ago there was a Lexmark that cost more to refill than to buy including new ink. That's some throwaway consumer printer, Literally. not a large format printer some of which go into five figure price tags. According to the sales figures in another post in this thread, the point I was trying to illustrate is valid. -- Ben Lyric of the week: "This the eighties and I'm down with the ladies" |
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