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Which other 6x6 folders took 11 frames?



 
 
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Old March 29th 06, 05:55 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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I just got a Super-Ikonta B 532/16 and was quite surprised that it only
takes 11 photos on a roll of 120. What other 6x6 cameras was this true
of where the mechanics limited you to 11 frames?

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Old March 29th 06, 10:57 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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No, all other 6 x 6 folders gave 12 frames. The fact that the Zeiss
Super-Ikonta (532/16) gives only 11 is one indication of the superiority
of the Zeiss design.

Regards,

Marv

(who owns a very nice 532/16 worked over and calibrated by the eminent
Ken Ruth of Photography on Bald Mountain.)



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I just got a Super-Ikonta B 532/16 and was quite surprised that it only
takes 11 photos on a roll of 120. What other 6x6 cameras was this true
of where the mechanics limited you to 11 frames?


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Old March 30th 06, 02:54 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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I just got a Super-Ikonta B 532/16 and was quite surprised that it only
takes 11 photos on a roll of 120. What other 6x6 cameras was this true
of where the mechanics limited you to 11 frames?


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Old March 30th 06, 06:56 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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I just got a Super-Ikonta B 532/16 and was quite surprised that it only
takes 11 photos on a roll of 120. What other 6x6 cameras was this true
of where the mechanics limited you to 11 frames?


You are not loading it properly.


The limitation of 11 frames is explained here.
http://elekm.net/pages/cameras/sikonta532-16.htm

And you can see that the frame counter only goes up to 11 on the wheel
at the top pf the camera here.
http://www.cameraquest.com/zikontb.htm

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Old March 30th 06, 06:58 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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Marv Soloff wrote:
No, all other 6 x 6 folders gave 12 frames. The fact that the Zeiss
Super-Ikonta (532/16) gives only 11 is one indication of the superiority
of the Zeiss design.


It's a shame Leica didn't do one giving only 10 frames. That would have
been an improvement.


(who owns a very nice 532/16 worked over and calibrated by the eminent
Ken Ruth of Photography on Bald Mountain.)



wrote:
I just got a Super-Ikonta B 532/16 and was quite surprised that it only
takes 11 photos on a roll of 120. What other 6x6 cameras was this true
of where the mechanics limited you to 11 frames?


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Old March 30th 06, 01:33 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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A lot of the things Zeiss did over the years was in reaction to the
competition from Leitz and Rollei and others - who got there "firstest
with the mostest". Leitz and F&H set the bar, Zeiss had to react to it -
and fast - which explains some of the "Larry Lightbulb" products they
came out with. I will probably be trashed by the Zeiss Zealots for even
thinking this, but that's my take on Zeiss and some of their oddball stuff.

Regards,

Marv

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Marv Soloff wrote:

No, all other 6 x 6 folders gave 12 frames. The fact that the Zeiss
Super-Ikonta (532/16) gives only 11 is one indication of the superiority
of the Zeiss design.



It's a shame Leica didn't do one giving only 10 frames. That would have
been an improvement.



(who owns a very nice 532/16 worked over and calibrated by the eminent
Ken Ruth of Photography on Bald Mountain.)



wrote:

I just got a Super-Ikonta B 532/16 and was quite surprised that it only
takes 11 photos on a roll of 120. What other 6x6 cameras was this true
of where the mechanics limited you to 11 frames?




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Old March 30th 06, 02:37 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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You are not loading it properly.


http://elekm.net/pages/cameras/sikonta532-16.htm
[...]
http://www.cameraquest.com/zikontb.htm


Ach. I was thinking of the 533/16. I have one right beside me. It goes to
12.


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Old March 30th 06, 02:40 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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According to the articles, mine is a BX, but I see no stampings anywhere on
the camera to indicate that.


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Old March 30th 06, 05:12 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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"Marv Soloff" wrote in message
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A lot of the things Zeiss did over the years was in reaction to the
competition from Leitz and Rollei and others - who got there "firstest with
the mostest". Leitz and F&H set the bar, Zeiss had to react to it - and
fast - which explains some of the "Larry Lightbulb" products they came out
with. I will probably be trashed by the Zeiss Zealots for even thinking
this, but that's my take on Zeiss and some of their oddball stuff.


Didn't Rollei and in part, Leica use Zeiss lenses?

Larry Lightbulb! Gosh, that's a funny image. What Zeiss cameras were Larry
Lightbulbs?


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Old March 31st 06, 12:19 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
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Default Which other 6x6 folders took 11 frames?

The Ikoflex for one.

Regards,

Marv

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"Marv Soloff" wrote in message
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A lot of the things Zeiss did over the years was in reaction to the
competition from Leitz and Rollei and others - who got there "firstest with
the mostest". Leitz and F&H set the bar, Zeiss had to react to it - and
fast - which explains some of the "Larry Lightbulb" products they came out
with. I will probably be trashed by the Zeiss Zealots for even thinking
this, but that's my take on Zeiss and some of their oddball stuff.



Didn't Rollei and in part, Leica use Zeiss lenses?

Larry Lightbulb! Gosh, that's a funny image. What Zeiss cameras were Larry
Lightbulbs?



 




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