If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
Raphael Bustin wrote:
Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? The basic back is the spring back. It'll take sheet film holders and a few things designed to slide in the same way. I think Calumet's rollfilm holder fits a spring back. The graflok [I think this is the "universal" back] will take anything that fits the spring back plus anything designed for the graflok. You'll have to decide with 120 format do you want. 6x4.5 all the way to 6x12 will fit 4x5. Nick |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
In article ,
Raphael Bustin wrote: Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? I have a few of the Graflex lever wound rollfilm backs in 4x5 (a RH12 6x6 back) and 2x3 (a RH12 and a RH8 6x9). They work nicely. The lever wound Graflex backs are supposed to hold the film flatter than the Graflex knob wound backs, but I don't have any knob wound backs to make the comparison. Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? Graflok is a type of back that lets you easily remove the ground glass panel and attach different accessories (usually a rollfilm back). It uses sliding tabs to hold the accessory in place. Some companies call it a Graflok back, others call it an International back. The other common type of back is the spring back, in which the ground glass panel is not removable. Some spring backs have enough movement that you can slip a Graflex style rollfilm holder under the ground glass panel. Others need a holder like the Calumet ones that slip under the ground glass and keep all the film to one side. There is also a Graflex back, but it's rare (only on early Graflex cameras?) and not compatible with current backs. The locating ridge is on the camera back instead of on the holder. -- Brian Reynolds | "But in the new approach, as you know, | the important thing is to understand http://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what you're doing rather than to get NAR# 54438 | the right answer." -- Tom Lehrer |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
Simple and inexpensive? Not hardly likely. For simple, see if you can
unearth an old Suydam (Suydam Metal Products) roll holder. Made out of pressed tinplate. Try to find one without rust. Regards, Marv Raphael Bustin wrote: Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
Generic term is "International Back", it was developed by Graphex as the
"Graflok Back" so the terms are actually interchangable. -- Raphael Bustin wrote: Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
The Graphic RH8 6x9 knob backs that I own do not appear to have problems
with film flatness. Over the 25 years that they have been in my kit, a lot of film has passed through -- everything has been quite acceptable corner to corner. In the beginning they were used with an Anniversary Speed Graphic fitted with a Graflok back. Now they bond with a Technika V -- same good results. -- Greg Latiak Images http://members.rogers.com/greglatiak/ "Tom" tom@localhost wrote in message ... Generic term is "International Back", it was developed by Graphex as the "Graflok Back" so the terms are actually interchangable. -- Raphael Bustin wrote: Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
Raphael Bustin wrote:
Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? I like the Horseman backs. They're significantly smaller and lighter than the push-in types (Calumet, Sinar) and have worked flawlessly for me for many years. Wolfgang -- La perfection est atteinte non quand il ne reste rien à ajouter, mais quand il ne reste rien à enlever. (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
I have a Graphic "23" back that works well. I bought it for around $30 at a
swap meet though this is probably at the low end of the asking price. I did expect on the basis of the '23' that this would have an aspect ratio of 2:3 ie 6x9 but it is more like 6x8 in the frame window (58mm x 78mm to be precise). You see them around often enough. "Raphael Bustin" wrote in message ... Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Recommend 6x9 Roll Film Holder
"Raphael Bustin" wrote in message ... Any recommendations for a simple and inexpensive 120 or 220 roll film holder that fits a standard 4x5 field camera back? Is "graflok" the proper term to describe the standard generic 4x5 back -- or is that term proprietary to the Speed Graphic? rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com "Graflok" was a trade mark of Graflex for a type of back with removable ground glass spring panel which would accept accessories. It became standard on all sizes of Speed and Crown Graphics c.1950 and was available in a retrofit version for earlier cameras of up to 4x5. Some modern 4x5 cameras have so called Universal or International backs which are either identical or essentially similar to the Graflok and take the same accessories. Many view and press cameras have "spring backs" which take standard holders but not accessories. The only roll film holder which is practical for a "spring back" is the one made by Calumet. These slide in like standard sheet film holders. They will fit most 4x5 cameras but not all. Some have fittings which interfere with the seating of the roll adaptor. I have at least one camera where the "ears" on the ground glass panel will not allow the holder to go in all the way. Calumet has buit these for many years. The original Model C-2 is made entirirely of metal, the current version has some plastic. Used ones turn up every so often but are not cheap. The current version is fairly expensive but you will have to check the Calumet web site for current prices. If your camera has a slide out ground glass and spring panel its a Graflok or similar back. These will have sliding sheet metal strips above and below the window for holding the accessories. -- --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Insane new TSA rule for film inspection | [email protected] | 35mm Photo Equipment | 94 | June 23rd 04 05:17 AM |
The first film of the Digital Revolution is here.... | Todd Bailey | Film & Labs | 0 | May 27th 04 08:12 AM |
620 Roll Film | peter lang | In The Darkroom | 10 | April 15th 04 04:43 AM |
film holder care | khoi | Large Format Photography Equipment | 7 | January 24th 04 09:17 PM |
FA: NIKON LS-4500AF HiEnd LargeFormatFilm Scanner | bleanne | APS Photographic Equipment | 1 | November 27th 03 08:34 AM |