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Canon 5D announced !
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wrote: For now twit. Consider that Canon ****ed FD lens user off when they when to the EOS mount. Consider that Nikon users can virtually select from a vast array of lenses that work with the current FF camera and original mount. LOL, obviously you've never bothered to look at any of the Nikon lens compatibility charts. obviously you've never used any of them. basically, just about all of the old nikon lenses work fine on a nikon dslr. the charts make it seem a lot more complicated than it really is. The FD to EOS transition took place more than 20 years ago. Get over it. Without EOS, Canon would have not taken the lead in professional SLR sales because the FD mount was inadequate. Nikon made a big mistake by trying to kludge the F mount time after time, and failing to include some functionality for older lenses on some digital bodies. Nikon can't do all the lenses Canon is capable of doing because of the old mount. that's simply false, regardless of how many times you say it. One thing I do like about Nikon is that their DX lenses can be used directly on their full frame cameras, just without using the full frame. With Canon, using an EF-S lens on a full-frame mount requires an adapter that extends the lens forward slightly. an adapter? the only way that works is with an extension tube which means that the lens can no longer focus to infinity, or a teleconverter that changes the focal length and f/stop (and adversely affects the quality). But actually, you're right, it's always "for now." No doubt Nikon is soon going to announce a D300 replacement that will move it ahead of the 50D (probably including video capability like the D90). No doubt Nikon will also announce a replacement for the D700 so they can compete against the 5D Mark II, though the D700 replacement is probably at least 4-6 months away since the D700 is pretty recent. Nikon users would be advised to sit tight for a while and continue using their existing D-SLR bodies while Nikon readies their next generation. nonsense. While you can wait forever for the next great thing, in this case Nikon _has_ to respond quickly to the EOS 5D Mark II and the EOS 50D, just as Canon will have to do something about the XSi in regards to how it competes against the D90. no they don't have to respond quickly. the d300 and d700 are decent cameras as they are, and offer some things canon doesn't. for example, the d300/700 have a 51 point autofocus system and the 50d/5d mark ii have a 9 point autofocus. both nikon and canon have excellent cameras. |
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"Maurice Blanchard" wrote in message ... Finally... And now for something completely different... 30 mp Pentax dSLR/HD1080p http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=29385464 |
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Canon 5D announced !
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, Annika1980 wrote: On Sep 18, 8:42*pm, SMS wrote: No doubt Nikon is soon going to announce a D300 replacement that will move it ahead of the 50D (probably including video capability like the D90). No doubt Nikon will also announce a replacement for the D700 so they can compete against the 5D Mark II, though the D700 replacement is probably at least 4-6 months away since the D700 is pretty recent. Nikon users would be advised to sit tight for a while and continue using their existing D-SLR bodies while Nikon readies their next generation. It usually takes Nikon a year or two to catch up to Canon's latest offerings. Once the new Nikon hits the market it takes Canon about 30 minutes to go back in front. Sux to be you, Nikonians! Not half as bad as it would to be you. -- Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back. |
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ASAAR wrote: Maybe. Or maybe the collapse of Canon's virtual FF monopoly kept the price down more than any financial collapses did. And the fact that Nikon did it w/o sacrificing the original Nikon mount. Opposed to? -Wolfgang |
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Maurice Blanchard wrote,on my timestamp of 17/09/2008 1:54 PM:
Finally... http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/control...articleID=2046 Good info site: http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/ |
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: ____ wrote: ASAAR wrote: Maybe. Or maybe the collapse of Canon's virtual FF monopoly kept the price down more than any financial collapses did. And the fact that Nikon did it w/o sacrificing the original Nikon mount. Opposed to? -Wolfgang Reading the thread, I guess in your case. -- Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back. |
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In article , Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: ____ wrote: ASAAR wrote: Maybe. Or maybe the collapse of Canon's virtual FF monopoly kept the price down more than any financial collapses did. And the fact that Nikon did it w/o sacrificing the original Nikon mount. Opposed to? Reading the thread, I guess in your case. Canon sacrificed which mount again going to FF? And don't tell me EF-S users had no idea that their lenses may not be FF compatible ... -Wolfgang |
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SMS wrote,on my timestamp of 19/09/2008 10:42 AM:
some functionality for older lenses on some digital bodies. Nikon can't do all the lenses Canon is capable of doing because of the old mount. what a load of crap! Lens making ability has nothing to do with mount. Perfect proof what you said is rubbish: Zeiss, Sigma, Tamron and all other makers of multiple mount lenses. One thing I do like about Nikon is that their DX lenses can be used directly on their full frame cameras, just without using the full frame. With Canon, using an EF-S lens on a full-frame mount requires an adapter that extends the lens forward slightly. That must be because of the "superior" mount?... But actually, you're right, it's always "for now." No doubt Nikon is soon going to announce a D300 replacement that will move it ahead of the 50D (probably including video capability like the D90). D400. No doubt Nikon will also announce a replacement for the D700 so they can compete against the 5D Mark II, though the D700 replacement is probably at least 4-6 months away since the D700 is pretty recent. D800, mid 2009. bodies while Nikon readies their next generation. While you can wait forever for the next great thing, in this case Nikon _has_ to respond quickly to the EOS 5D Mark II and the EOS 50D, just as Canon will have to do something about the XSi in regards to how it competes against the D90. What on earth for? The 5D2 is not that much of a leap from the D700 for anyone to jump ship. Megapixels is NOT everything, no matter how much marketing would like that one to stick. D700 has a MUCH better AF setup, besides a few other aspects. Wait a few more months and the value for money equation will even things out. If anything, what the 5d2 has CLEARLY shown is how much 1DS users have been ripped off over the years! Nothing like a bit of serious competition for monopolies to "suddenly" find a way of producing stuff for a lot less $$$, isn't it? And wait for the 5D2 users to find out not all lenses work well, unless they cough up for Canon's lens correction software? Sucks to have been skinned alive by Canon, doesn't it? Then again, we all know what suckers Canon users are... LOL! |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:51:41 -0700, Annika1980 wrote:
On Sep 18, 8:42Â*pm, SMS wrote: No doubt Nikon is soon going to announce a D300 replacement that will move it ahead of the 50D (probably including video capability like the D90). No doubt Nikon will also announce a replacement for the D700 so they can compete against the 5D Mark II, though the D700 replacement is probably at least 4-6 months away since the D700 is pretty recent. Nikon users would be advised to sit tight for a while and continue using their existing D-SLR bodies while Nikon readies their next generation. It usually takes Nikon a year or two to catch up to Canon's latest offerings. Once the new Nikon hits the market it takes Canon about 30 minutes to go back in front. Sux to be you, Nikonians! Where do you think Nikon is in front and where do you think Canon is in front? |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:42:13 +1000, Noons wrote:
SMS wrote,on my timestamp of 19/09/2008 10:42 AM: some functionality for older lenses on some digital bodies. Nikon can't do all the lenses Canon is capable of doing because of the old mount. what a load of crap! Lens making ability has nothing to do with mount. Perfect proof what you said is rubbish: Zeiss, Sigma, Tamron and all other makers of multiple mount lenses. One thing I do like about Nikon is that their DX lenses can be used directly on their full frame cameras, just without using the full frame. With Canon, using an EF-S lens on a full-frame mount requires an adapter that extends the lens forward slightly. That must be because of the "superior" mount?... But actually, you're right, it's always "for now." No doubt Nikon is soon going to announce a D300 replacement that will move it ahead of the 50D (probably including video capability like the D90). D400. No doubt Nikon will also announce a replacement for the D700 so they can compete against the 5D Mark II, though the D700 replacement is probably at least 4-6 months away since the D700 is pretty recent. D800, mid 2009. bodies while Nikon readies their next generation. While you can wait forever for the next great thing, in this case Nikon _has_ to respond quickly to the EOS 5D Mark II and the EOS 50D, just as Canon will have to do something about the XSi in regards to how it competes against the D90. What on earth for? The 5D2 is not that much of a leap from the D700 for anyone to jump ship. Megapixels is NOT everything, no matter how much marketing would like that one to stick. D700 has a MUCH better AF setup, besides a few other aspects. Wait a few more months and the value for money equation will even things out. If anything, what the 5d2 has CLEARLY shown is how much 1DS users have been ripped off over the years! Nothing like a bit of serious competition for monopolies to "suddenly" find a way of producing stuff for a lot less $$$, isn't it? And wait for the 5D2 users to find out not all lenses work well, unless they cough up for Canon's lens correction software? Sucks to have been skinned alive by Canon, doesn't it? Then again, we all know what suckers Canon users are... LOL! ALL OF THIS IS BULL****. I do admit there may be some differences in image quality but just because there are differences or discernible characteristics that does not mean one is actually better than the other but just different. If one takes a dozen photos of various subjects with each camera right next to each other and then edits and prints them to the same size like an 11x14 or a 12x18 or even a 16x20 and then mixed them all up one would be hard pressed to tell which camera made which print. You might be able to sort them based on characteristics depending on the subject or maybe on the color and you might even have a preference based on some characteristic but the actual quality would be about the same. There would be no significant differences in image quality. Now that does not mean you would not enjoy using one over the other or that you might prefer the feature set or ergonomics of one over the other. I am just saying the primary purpose to produce quality images would be about a toss up. |
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