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  #11  
Old August 18th 14, 01:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon d710?

In article , PeterN
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On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)


One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.


That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
--
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Old August 18th 14, 02:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon d710?

On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)


One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.


That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6

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  #13  
Old August 18th 14, 02:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon d710?

"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.


That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6


That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html


  #14  
Old August 18th 14, 04:12 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_5_]
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Default Nikon d710?

On 8/18/2014 9:50 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.

That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6


That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html


Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7

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Old August 18th 14, 05:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon d710?

In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/18/2014 9:50 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.

That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...4_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6


That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html


Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7


Different firmware???
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Old August 18th 14, 05:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon d710?

"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 9:50 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.

That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6


That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html


Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7


Same camera, different price

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-...-DMC-LX7/specs


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Old August 18th 14, 05:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
PAS
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Default Nikon d710?

"android" wrote in message
...
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/18/2014 9:50 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN

wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is
a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations.
I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.

That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few
cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...4_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6

That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html


Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different
cameras.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7


Different firmware???


Other than the price and a different body, it's the same camera.


  #18  
Old August 18th 14, 05:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Nikon d710?

On 2014-08-18 15:12:30 +0000, PeterN said:

On 8/18/2014 9:50 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.

That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html


http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6

That's

the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html



Nope.

There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7


Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are
paying a hefty price for a little red nameplate.

They are only superficially different cameras due to physical
appearance. Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference
is the $398 list price difference for essentially the same performance.
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx 7
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy


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  #19  
Old August 18th 14, 05:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
android
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Default Nikon d710?

In article , "PAS"
wrote:

"android" wrote in message
...
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/18/2014 9:50 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN

wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is
a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations.
I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.

That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few
cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...8134_d_lux_6_e
dit
ion_100.html

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6

That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...dmc_lx7k_Lumix
_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html


Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different
cameras.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7


Different firmware???


Other than the price and a different body, it's the same camera.


I don't think so... The Leica produces RWL raw and the cheapoo Pana
RW2!!!
Ergo: Different firmvares...
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Old August 18th 14, 08:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
PAS
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"Savageduck" wrote in message
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On 2014-08-18 15:12:30 +0000, PeterN said:

On 8/18/2014 9:50 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 8/18/2014 8:41 AM, android wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

On 8/15/2014 10:10 AM, android wrote:
On 2014-08-15 14:46, PeterN wrote:
On 8/15/2014 12:59 AM, android wrote:
In article 2014081414002928060-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-08-14 19:22:20 +0000, android said:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , android

wrote:

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?

Than it would have less features...

obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.

Those are HF (half frame) cameras...

the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.

Nope! They are half frame...

Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p


I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.

It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations.
I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)

One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.

That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few
cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.


I doubt it

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html


http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6

That's

the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html



Nope.

There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7


Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are paying a
hefty price for a little red nameplate.

They are only superficially different cameras due to physical appearance.
Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference is the $398 list
price difference for essentially the same performance.
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx 7
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy


Yes, superficially different. The only real differences are the red dot
and, as Android pointed out, different firmware yielding a different RAW
format.


 




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