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[Deputy Dog:]Funny thing.............when you ****
in the wind you tend to get some on yourself. think on it ! Very true. People supporting this market fraud named "ZLR" under the guise of serving users got a lot of their own ****, their fraud shown for what it is. No wonder that they are ****ed off! The best, Julio. |
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"J.S.Pitanga" wrote in message
news No wonder that they are ****ed off! The best, Julio. I've been watching this NG for a while now and I don't see anyone ****ed off except those who are becomming EXTREMELY ****ed off with YOU and your infantile ranting.. PLEASE, if you are sincere in wishing us "the best" , then make it come true by going away for good. Not so king regards, Leo |
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[Leo R.:]:
I've been watching this NG for a while now and I don't see anyone ****ed off except those who are becomming EXTREMELY ****ed off with YOU Indeed. I was referring exactly to them. But it is just natural that supporters of a fraud get ****ed off when such a fraud, or their stupidity, is exposed. and your infantile ranting.. Don't be silly, Leo. The only one infantilely ranting here is you. PLEASE, if you are sincere in wishing us "the best" , then make it come true by going away for good. Why should I? It's you, not me ****ed off. But instead of going away for good, I suggest that you stay, but try to be a little bit more mature in your reactions. Not so king regards, You are obviously overpowered by anger, dear Leo. Like this you are unable even to think properly. Please cool down, and as soon as you recover write again telling something nice and useful. The best, Julio. |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:05:58 -0200, "J.S.Pitanga"
wrote: [Deputy Dog:]Funny thing.............when you **** in the wind you tend to get some on yourself. think on it ! Very true. People supporting this market fraud named "ZLR" under the guise of serving users got a lot of their own ****, their fraud shown for what it is. No wonder that they are ****ed off! The best, Julio. Julio, why do you categorize this naming convention as "fraud"? Fraud is commonly defined as "deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party". Just curious. T. -- Terry Geneva |
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Larry wrote:
In article , says... Julio, why do you categorize this naming convention as "fraud"? Fraud is commonly defined as "deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party". Just curious. T. -- Terry Geneva Mostly he carries on because he hasn't got a life, the rest is caused by the fact that he is an ass 'wipe of the third order. He feels insulted that all of the world wont agree to his definition of whats right and whats wrong in the world of photography. We all KNOW that the cameras he harps about arent really "Reflex" cameras, but this group refers to them that way and it really 'ticks him off. He doesn't seem to have anything to add to any discussion about cameras of any kind. You shoulda' PLONKED him a week ago. On the other hand, obnoxious as he may be, he also may be correct: if a camera-maker mis-labels a product in order to gain unearned cachet (and sales), isn't it deceptive and injurious, and immoral to perpetuate the deception? I think there is an element of inappropriate face-saving among the namers of this group, who invested heavily but should be able to say, "Oops! We might have got it wrong, but this is what we got; let's run with it." Or better: make a new group with a name more suited to its purpose, something that reflects "Advanced digital cameras with powerful features but without interchangeable lens facility." rec.photo.digital.potent.fixed-lens It's not as if one more unused Usenet group is a legacy the "deciders" can't live with. Or is it? -- Frank ess "Because of the Swiss Cheese nature of everyone's life experience and education, the Whoosh Bird can drop a load on anyone's head, without warning." -Albrecht Einstein |
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Frank ess wrote:
Larry wrote: In article , says... Julio, why do you categorize this naming convention as "fraud"? Fraud is commonly defined as "deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party". Just curious. I think there is an element of inappropriate face-saving among the namers of this group, who invested heavily but should be able to say, "Oops! We might have got it wrong, but this is what we got; let's run with it." Or better: make a new group with a name more suited to its purpose, something that reflects "Advanced digital cameras with powerful features but without interchangeable lens facility." rec.photo.digital.potent.fixed-lens It's not as if one more unused Usenet group is a legacy the "deciders" can't live with. Or is it? This topic still keeps going! As I mentioned earlier, it was probably battle fatigue that made people accept ZLR, which ought to be "through the lens viewfinder" or "prime lens viewfinder" if you want to avoid R indicating reflection. Come to think of it, PLV would not have been bad and I believe it represents the future instead of clumsy, antediluvian mirrors (g)! -- James V. Silverton Potomac, Maryland, USA |
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Frank ess wrote:
[] I think there is an element of inappropriate face-saving among the namers of this group, who invested heavily but should be able to say, "Oops! We might have got it wrong, but this is what we got; let's run with it." There was an open discussion and ZLR was the best that anyone came up with at the time. Plenty of people are indeed "running with it". Cheers, David |
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James Silverton wrote:
This topic still keeps going! As I mentioned earlier, it was probably battle fatigue that made people accept ZLR, which ought to be "through the lens viewfinder" or "prime lens viewfinder" if you want to avoid R indicating reflection. Come to think of it, PLV would not have been bad and I believe it represents the future instead of clumsy, antediluvian mirrors (g)! For what it's worth, I voted against the rpd split, but I've swallowed my pride and decided that this group is the best place to talk to people who have similar cameras to mine and want to do similar things with them. Renaming the group would be a faff, rmgrouping it and starting again would be a faff, let's just live with the suboptimal group name (the charter makes it clear what sort of camera is meant to be discussed here) and get on with talking photography rather than trying to score sophomoric points off each other. My killfile in this group's already healthy enough.... ;P pete -- "there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas" |
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[Terry:]
Julio, why do you categorize this naming convention as "fraud"? Fraud is commonly defined as "deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party". Just curious. Because it fits the definition, Terry. This subject has already been extensively discussed. You are most welcome to join the discussion, but please at least read the previous messages in the thread before doing so. The best, Julio. |
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