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Dearth of new camera releases
"RichA" wrote in message
... Dear camera makers; reducing releases of cameras in a recession makes about as much sense as cutting back advertising to save money. All you do is allow your competition to take (and keep) market share. If the market has shrunk from 100 to 80 (arbitrary numbers) do think being LESS visible is going to help your company?? You are now fighting over a smaller pie, so get the F--- in there and produce something. I think it's more about the importance of releasing something that people want/need, at a reasonable price. To try and put it into perspective, people will pay more for a car with air con, but they don't really care about digital climate control, as long as it blows cold air when they need it. Sure digital climate control with individual temperatures on each side looks good, but it doesn't really serve a useful purpose. Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. |
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On 5/4/2010 6:15 AM, Drazic wrote:
Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. I'll tell what I want: 1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work and actually focus on what they are aimed at. 2) a histogram superimposed on a Live View so one can adjust exposure while aiming the camera. This should be the histogram for RAW mode files, not after JPEGization. Other than that, my current camera, an old 30D, works fine. Doug McDonald |
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Dearth of new camera releases
Doug McDonald wrote:
Drazic wrote: Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. I'll tell what I want: 1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work and actually focus on what they are aimed at. You've already got that. The problem is that a scene isn't a spot and when you add multiple focus points then the camera has to decide which point to use and for how long. -- Ray Fischer |
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Dearth of new camera releases
On Tue, 04 May 2010 07:58:59 -0500, Doug McDonald
wrote: On 5/4/2010 6:15 AM, Drazic wrote: Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. I'll tell what I want: 1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work and actually focus on what they are aimed at. Any of the contrast-detection cameras can do that. 2) a histogram superimposed on a Live View so one can adjust exposure while aiming the camera. This should be the histogram for RAW mode files, not after JPEGization. Any of the CHDK capable cameras can do that, in 7 different flavors of histograms. Because the JPG data is accurately representing the RAW data to begin with. It is only in cameras that are poorly programmed where the JPG output will not reflect the raw sensor data. Unfortunately that is the case in most all DSLR cameras. DSLR owners don't want to admit to being duped into buying flawed hardware and having to spend extra money and time in trying to repair what their cameras failed to provide in the first place. Are you truly this inexperienced and naive? |
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C.P. Robbins wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2010 07:58:59 -0500, Doug McDonald wrote: 2) a histogram superimposed on a Live View so one can adjust exposure while aiming the camera. This should be the histogram for RAW mode files, not after JPEGization. Any of the CHDK capable cameras can do that, in 7 different flavors of histograms. And I've never found it useful enough to turn it on. BugBear (a630 + CHDK) |
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"Drazic" wrote in
: "RichA" wrote in message . .. Dear camera makers; reducing releases of cameras in a recession makes about as much sense as cutting back advertising to save money. All you do is allow your competition to take (and keep) market share. If the market has shrunk from 100 to 80 (arbitrary numbers) do think being LESS visible is going to help your company?? You are now fighting over a smaller pie, so get the F--- in there and produce something. I think it's more about the importance of releasing something that people want/need, at a reasonable price. To try and put it into perspective, people will pay more for a car with air con, but they don't really care about digital climate control, as long as it blows cold air when they need it. Sure digital climate control with individual temperatures on each side looks good, but it doesn't really serve a useful purpose. Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. Switch sensors at will. |
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Rich wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4be01c2a$0$1659 : Doug McDonald wrote: Drazic wrote: Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. I'll tell what I want: 1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work and actually focus on what they are aimed at. You've already got that. The problem is that a scene isn't a spot and when you add multiple focus points then the camera has to decide which point to use and for how long. Except that you could do completely manual, cumulative spot metering with some old SLRs!! OM-4T was an example. "Metering" is not the same as "focusing". -- Ray Fischer |
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Dearth of new camera releases
C.P. Robbins wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2010 07:58:59 -0500, Doug McDonald wrote: On 5/4/2010 6:15 AM, Drazic wrote: Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. I'll tell what I want: 1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work and actually focus on what they are aimed at. Any of the contrast-detection cameras can do that. Nope. If anything they're worse because they need to sample a large area in which to determine contrast. -- Ray Fischer |
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On 2010-05-04 05:15:15 -0600, "Drazic" said:
"RichA" wrote in message ... Dear camera makers; reducing releases of cameras in a recession makes about as much sense as cutting back advertising to save money. All you do is allow your competition to take (and keep) market share. If the market has shrunk from 100 to 80 (arbitrary numbers) do think being LESS visible is going to help your company?? You are now fighting over a smaller pie, so get the F--- in there and produce something. I think it's more about the importance of releasing something that people want/need, at a reasonable price. To try and put it into perspective, people will pay more for a car with air con, but they don't really care about digital climate control, as long as it blows cold air when they need it. Sure digital climate control with individual temperatures on each side looks good, but it doesn't really serve a useful purpose. Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested. The manufacturers are not releasing new cameras because they value Rich's opinion very highly and they know that he would just dis anything they release anyway. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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