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Sensor Film (for cleaning sensor)
http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html
Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. -- Paul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam |
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Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:46:55 -0700, Paul Furman wrote: http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. Thanks for this, Paul. I agree, it looks very good indeed. I used something very similar for cleaning lens surfaces and - if used with care - it was excellent. My Kodak DCS Pro 14n has acquired a large blob of dust on the sensor so, rather than pay $$ for professional cleaning, I have ordered one of these cleaning kits. I will try it, and report back. Cool, yes, let us know. I'll bet blue painter's masking tape works well. I've used that to protect lenses while machining/grinding and it always comes off perfectly clean. -- Paul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam |
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On 10-04-10 1:46 , Paul Furman wrote:
http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. Neat idea. Before buying this I'd suggest anyone watch the video. I'm not sure what the gap is between the shutter and the filter. So I'm concerned that if the shutter is closed while the product is on the filter glass that it could get into the blades of the shutter (by contact or splashing from vibration ... it looks viscous so splashing may not be an issue, but the gap may not be sufficient). I think I'd stick to the blower or swab method. For your bellows could you put an NC filter between the bellows and the body that seals off the body? -- gmail originated posts are filtered due to spam. |
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Alan Browne wrote:
Paul Furman wrote: http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. Neat idea. Before buying this I'd suggest anyone watch the video. I'm not sure what the gap is between the shutter and the filter. So I'm concerned that if the shutter is closed while the product is on the filter glass that it could get into the blades of the shutter (by contact or splashing from vibration ... it looks viscous so splashing may not be an issue, but the gap may not be sufficient). Yeah, that's what the second dab on the paper is for, so the pull tab doesn't get thwacked by the mirror if the battery fails. Keeping the mirror locked for 3 hours to dry sounds kind of crazy though. I think I'd stick to the blower or swab method. I'm going to try masking tape. Swabs drive me nuts. For your bellows could you put an NC filter between the bellows and the body that seals off the body? Yep, I found this idea in a discussion of that idea. -- Paul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam |
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On 2010-04-10 17:13:17 -0700, Paul Furman said:
Alan Browne wrote: Paul Furman wrote: http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. Neat idea. Before buying this I'd suggest anyone watch the video. I'm not sure what the gap is between the shutter and the filter. So I'm concerned that if the shutter is closed while the product is on the filter glass that it could get into the blades of the shutter (by contact or splashing from vibration ... it looks viscous so splashing may not be an issue, but the gap may not be sufficient). Yeah, that's what the second dab on the paper is for, so the pull tab doesn't get thwacked by the mirror if the battery fails. Keeping the mirror locked for 3 hours to dry sounds kind of crazy though. I think I'd stick to the blower or swab method. I'm going to try masking tape. Swabs drive me nuts. For your bellows could you put an NC filter between the bellows and the body that seals off the body? Yep, I found this idea in a discussion of that idea. I found the Speckgrabber to be a useful tool for picking off some spots with having to resort to wet cleaning http://kinetronics.com/store/speckgrabber_product.html They have quite a shopping list of goodies for dust maniacs. http://www.kinetronics.com/store/photoproducts.html I perfected wet cleaning and spot hunting with my D70, which seemed to be a dust magnet. With the sensor dust removal system on the D300s and the D300 before that, all I have needed was a quick puff with a Giotto's rocket. For wet cleaning I use one of the Photographic Solutions kits. http://www.photosol.com/ and I keep one or two of their sealed package Sensor Swab Plus in my bag in case of real emegencies which the blower can't solve when I am away from home. http://www.photosol.com/swabplus.htm -- Regards, Savageduck |
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"Paul Furman" wrote in message ... http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. -- Paul Furman This one (Dust-Aid) looked really easy to use -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAGwI_afY0. Has anyone tried it? --DR |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:26:35 +0100, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:16:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Apr 10, 1:46*am, Paul Furman wrote: http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. -- Paul Furmanwww.edgehill.netwww.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam It might work well. 3M made a paint and peel lens cleaner (it was black) that would remove dust particles much smaller than with wet or blower cleaning. I never saw it in the consumer realm. It was widely available in the UK. Or at least a similar product was, because I don't recall it being made by 3M. All of which induce an even stronger electrostatic charge on the substrate as it is peeled off, making it an even greater dust magnet afterward. (This method of optics cleaning is nothing new by the way. Collodion methods have been used for centuries. Goggle: optics cleaning collodion) 3M has done a lot in their adhesives research to try to prevent inducing a static charge between adhesive and the foundations to which they are applied and removed, but a completely neutral substance to the triboelectric scale is wholly impossible. I recently had to research this when trying to find a good belt material for a many-megavolt electrostatic generator--considering even some of 3M's adhesive tapes for the purpose (adhesive removed, of course). Their formulations for adhesives will bleed off a charge while they are in place, but they can do little about the problem when the two different layers are pulled away from each other. They are non-electrostatic inducing while applied but not when separated. My photography work-flow is free and clear of all these image and opportunity destroying problems. I only buy cameras without all these encumbrances. |
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On 2010-04-11 05:46:24 -0700, "David Ruether" said:
"Paul Furman" wrote in message ... http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. -- Paul Furman This one (Dust-Aid) looked really easy to use -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAGwI_afY0. Has anyone tried it? --DR http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/d...sp?newsID=3008 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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John A. wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:44:38 -0500, C.P. Robbins wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:26:35 +0100, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:16:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Apr 10, 1:46 am, Paul Furman wrote: http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. -- Paul Furmanwww.edgehill.netwww.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam It might work well. 3M made a paint and peel lens cleaner (it was black) that would remove dust particles much smaller than with wet or blower cleaning. I never saw it in the consumer realm. It was widely available in the UK. Or at least a similar product was, because I don't recall it being made by 3M. All of which induce an even stronger electrostatic charge on the substrate as it is peeled off, making it an even greater dust magnet afterward. (This method of optics cleaning is nothing new by the way. Collodion methods have been used for centuries. Goggle: optics cleaning collodion) 3M has done a lot in their adhesives research to try to prevent inducing a static charge between adhesive and the foundations to which they are applied and removed, but a completely neutral substance to the triboelectric scale is wholly impossible. I recently had to research this when trying to find a good belt material for a many-megavolt electrostatic generator--considering even some of 3M's adhesive tapes for the purpose (adhesive removed, of course). Their formulations for adhesives will bleed off a charge while they are in place, but they can do little about the problem when the two different layers are pulled away from each other. They are non-electrostatic inducing while applied but not when separated. My photography work-flow is free and clear of all these image and opportunity destroying problems. I only buy cameras without all these encumbrances. I find my windshield is at its cleanest after I chip ice off it. Maybe a drop of water and a little liquid nitrogen would do the trick without introducing static. The post-peel static issue could be tested easily on any piece of glass. I wouldn't take the troll's word for it. If it's a problem, savageduck's kinetronics link above has all sorts of static controlling products. http://www.kinetronics.com/store/photoproducts.html I like the idea of giving the whole mirror box a good cleaning while the sensor is painted over. It's not clear to me how all those anti-static products work, the speck-grabber seems like a little swab of microfiber cloth but how do you clean it after using? I'm inclined to buy a pack of microfiber cloth at the drug store, cut it into smaller pieces and use those as disposable mirror box wipes. For the brushes, I'd need some sort of breathable bag to dry them in after washing or more dust would just settle in from the air as they dry :-( Plus those anti-static cleaning brushes use static charge to attract the dust, but how could that eliminate static on the glass? -- Paul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam |
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David Ruether wrote:
Paul Furman wrote... http://www.sensor-film.com/cleaning.html Paint on a rubber stuff then peel off, clean. Sounds like a good idea, I need to use at least a dozen swabs to get it clean for f/22 macro type shots, plus the bellows pumps dust like crazy. This one (Dust-Aid) looked really easy to use -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAGwI_afY0. Has anyone tried it? Looks good. Their faq has some caveats: http://www.dust-aid.com/08faq.html -which is a reminder that probably even with the paint-on stuff, you'd need a wet cleaning once in a while. Or at least I would g. I'm thinking the problem with my masking tape idea is getting it pressed down firmly, that stuff is kind of wrinkly and might miss spots. I'll try it and report back when I get the nerve. -- Paul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam |
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